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Hobby Lobby wins Supreme Court case, limits the ACA contraception mandate

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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
Women's rights should take priority over all and any belief system, unless the woman chooses that belief.

This decision is archaic.



Most ridiculous quote ever.




posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
Women's rights should take priority over all and any belief system, ...

Women still have a right to get get contraception elsewhere. They haven't been stopped from doing so. And no, people don't have a right to stop religious people from exercising their right to follow their religion.
edit on 6/30/2014 by FlyersFan because: I made it more polite



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
Women's rights should take priority over all and any belief system, unless the woman chooses that belief.

So you're saying that Women should have MORE rights than anyone else?
Or are you saying that Women's rights must supersede the rights and beliefs of all others?

If a woman 'chooses to believe' that murder is okay...is it okay?
edit on 30-6-2014 by IAMTAT because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: FlyersFan




People have a right to their religious beliefs


Apparently we don't.

That 'right' has been subverted to make big pharma, and other contraceptive corporations bilions of dollars.

Because they think they 'care' about people.

They are supporting crony capitalism, and they refuse to see it.


It looks like some do and some don't.

Remember back in 1990, what Scalia said about religious freedom.


"We have never held that an individual's beliefs excuse him from compliance with an otherwise valid law prohibiting conduct that the state is free to regulate.... it would be "courting anarchy" to create exceptions every time a religious group claims that a law infringes on its practices"

(Judge Scalia, ruling that Native Americans are not exempt from laws prohibiting the use of Peyote just because they consider it a sacrament).
www.nytimes.com...



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: FlyersFan

then the same ruling should extend to vacinations and blood transfusions shouldn't it?
but the supremes made it a point that it only covers birth control!



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: FlyersFan

then the same ruling should extend to vacinations and blood transfusions shouldn't it?
but the supremes made it a point that it only covers birth control!




All birth control or a certain type?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
If your religious beliefs are so strong that you cannot function in public

The religious folks are functioning just fine in public.

American Citizens are not meant to be controlled by religious beliefs.

The religious people ARE American citizens and they have a right to live by their religious beliefs.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: windword

The funny thing here ?

IT is not even a religious argument to make.

Some people are arguing under 'religious' freedom.

And there is another argument to be made here.

Corporate freedom.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: FlyersFan

then the same ruling should extend to vacinations and blood transfusions shouldn't it?
but the supremes made it a point that it only covers birth control!


And don't forget medical marijuana. It's legal, but someone's religion can prevent its coverage. And they can't go to Planned Parenthood for that.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:34 PM
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a reply to: thesaneone

they exempted them from the mandate of covering birth control
didn't see them specify only certain ones



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:35 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: FlyersFan

then the same ruling should extend to vacinations and blood transfusions shouldn't it?
but the supremes made it a point that it only covers birth control!


And don't forget medical marijuana. It's legal, but someone's religion can prevent its coverage. And they can't go to Planned Parenthood for that.


Or they can walk in to any Walmart or Target and shell out 10 bucks.

But that must be too much effort.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: neo96

WalMart and Target sell medical marijuana?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: neo96

WalMart and Target sell medical marijuana?


Prolly will soon enough.

They have vending machines already.

And sandwhichs laced with it.
edit on 30-6-2014 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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Nvm
edit on 30-6-2014 by thesaneone because: Yup



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
I wonder what birth control, and other contraceptives are made from.


Wanna' go there? The birth control pill is poison and has Nazi death camp connections.
IG Farben owned 42.5% of the company that manufactured Zyklon.
That's a chemical used in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and other extermination camps
IG Farben/Bayer ... birth control pills ... google up tons of info ....



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: neo96
I wonder what birth control, and other contraceptives are made from.


Wanna' go there? The birth control pill is poison and has Nazi death camp connections.
IG Farben owned 42.5% of the company that manufactured Zyklon.
That's a chemical used in the gas chambers of Auschwitz and other extermination camps
IG Farben/Bayer ... birth control pills ... google up tons of info ....



Well I have always thought that birth control was willfull eugenics in action.

Closer than I realized.
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posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:42 PM
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People should do what they think is right, and Hobby Lobby does not think paying for birth control is right.

The supreme court is also right. If someone is offended by Hobby Lobbies move to not pay employees for birth control, then they should instead shop at places that will. Problem solved. As for using the threat of force to resolve that issue such as shutting them down over a refusal to comply, its morally wrong to do. The word liberal has become something where they want to use liberal amounts of force to solve all their problems. They jump immediately to violent solutions without even taking a pause to think whether they might be solved other ways. Of course I'm talking about the violence they support when if Hobby Lobby were to refuse the birth control payments they would use whatever force and violence necessary to end their business permanently.

The fact is Hobby Lobby customers have a choice of shopping there if they don't agree how they do business. And certainly liberals never made any effort to band together and only shop at places where birth control is paid for. Yet that is the most effective solution to their problem, and they never made any efforts to do that. None.

A liberal will destroy your life at the drop of a hat over refusal to obey a draconian fascist law like forcing someone to sponsor an abortion whether they view it as a horrific crime against humanity or not, but god forbid they ever take so much as five minutes of their time to solve the problem on their own without violence.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:44 PM
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Well I have always thought that birth control was willfull eugenics in action.


Or, Self determined Natural Selection. Family planning isn't a bad thing.



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Destinyone

Totally disagree with this ruling. Corporations are people in this age, however.

It's interesting to see all who support that notion in this case. I wonder if you all support the Citizens United ruling.


Yes it is quite interesting to hear the nay sayers who are all upset about this ruling......

You want to keep the gov out of your bedroom and your right to choice and sexual preference, yet you want them to mandate people to have to provide you with products to facilitate your bedroom activities.......

Hypocrites much?



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: buster2010




Hobby Lobby is a company not a person so it should not have religious freedoms. Not to mention if they did find in their favor it would be opening the door for religious discrimination in every company across the nation.


To that same end their employees have the right to choose to work for a company whose owners hold a certain religious or theological view point as well......

You dont HAVE to work for hobby lobby, you can go work for somewhere else that provides birth control if you want.....

Freedom of Choice......isnt this what everyone wants?



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