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originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: fenson76
a reply to: Grimpachi
Doesn't monsanto have a finger in most of the pro GMO studies?
How would I know? If you mean they have to do lots of studies on their products before they can be approved then yeah I think that is pretty standard if you mean something else than that then could be more precise.
originally posted by: Zoyd23
I agree Cali74, Monsanto is a monster, and they have far too much power under Obama. People should demand that Obama get these Monsanto monsters out of FDA and all government organizations!
originally posted by: shrevegal
Folks griping about the study or studies ought to just think on this....Sometimes ya just gotta go with your "gut" on this one. When you eat these GMO foods and start to look like crap and feel like crap and put out abnormal "crap", maybe there is something wrong with that food. I used to love corn and now can't eat it....and what's this dealy of all this gluten intolerance and all of that? Could it be our guts don't like the new and improved wheat? The human body is an amazing mechanism and it often will tell us what is good for us and what is deleterious. So many more folks having digestive probs now and bowel syndromes and such. Maybe our bodies cannot adapt well to GMOs.
Just like that farm in Kansas that is engineering human liver genes into rice...yummie. Mother Nature had it right all along, why can't they just leave it all alone and stop trying to fix what isn't broken.
originally posted by: ZeuZZ
originally posted by: purplemer
Looks like more nails going in the coffin regarding GM foods... It amazes me that there where never any proper studies done on Genetically Modified Organisms and this information is only coming to light now.
I'm very skeptical of everything in this OP. You are linking to a random website, run by random people who you do not know, who only ever in the article (I read it all) link to other random websites and dubious news reports to reference their claims ("The Grocery" "The Daily Mail" [lol]), and at no point reference any scientific research that was published in respectable scientific journals that went through the process of peer review; the process that regulates good science from bad science.
However, I really hate Monsanto, and all the money they make at the behest of the average farmer and citizen, so I REALLY hope you can prove me wrong on this. Google scholar might help. I had a breif look on this subject there in journals, could find nothing on these subjects, the only thing that lends credence to it so far are the quotes from scientists in the media articles. However, there are very good scientific reasons why quotes in newspapers, from whatever scientists, are not peer reviewed quotes, and are much more personal opinions outside of the literature.
originally posted by: holyTerror
a reply to: Harte
Are you sure it was this study? No where does it state that tumors developed due to the pesticides. It only concluded that different side effects were present in the rats that ate NK 603, MON 810 and MON 863.
originally posted by: Jimjolnir
a reply to: AlphaHawk
So, the tests are on the soil?
If so, that GMO soil is, how we say, not very good... see the parts highlighted red... and the general lack of everything
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Most GMO food doesn't look, smell, taste, or act like real food.
That it is the opposite of nutrition and perhaps even harmful should be of no shock to anyone.
It's an illusion. And it's for maximizing profits.
“Even though I strongly support labeling, I’m skeptical of this study,” said Marion Nestle, professor in the Department of Nutrition, Food Studies and Public Health at New York University. “It’s weirdly complicated and unclear on key issues: what the controls were fed, relative rates of tumors, why no dose relationship, what the mechanism might be. I can’t think of a biological reason why GMO corn should do this.”
Mark Tester, a research professor for the Australian Centre for Plant Functional Genomics at the University of Adelaide noted that the findings raised the question of why no previous studies have flagged similar concerns. “If the effects are as big as purported, and if the work really is relevant to humans, why aren’t the North Americans dropping like flies? GM has been in the food chain for over a decade over there—and longevity continues to increase inexorably,
Assuming that "pigs won't touch" GMO corn, and knowing that pigs are fed GMO corn in very high volumes, then you'd have skinny pigs, wouldn't you. So now, we go from "pigs won't touch it" to "pigs might decide to eat something else if you put it in front of them." That's a fail, I hope you realize. Harte
Assuming that "pigs won't touch" GMO corn, and knowing that pigs are fed GMO corn in very high volumes, then you'd have skinny pigs, wouldn't you.
So now, we go from "pigs won't touch it" to "pigs might decide to eat something else if you put it in front of them." That's a fail, I hope you realize.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
And I vote you pay me. Otherwise, I probably already eat GMOs on a constant basis. I just finished a bowl of Cornflakes what do you think the odds are that they contained GMOs?
Last time someone suggested such an eating regimen I agreed to do it for 100K bet that and after 1 year if I wasn't sick I collect. No one would take me up on it.
BTW you know supersize me was fiction don't you?
originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
a reply to: Harte
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
well there is only one thing for it ...since the 3main skeptics are "grimpachi,ignorant ape,and void hawk" are saying basically that GM food must be fine for consumption i vote the 3 of them under strict control have to eat nothing but GM food for a month...much the same way in which "supersize me" was....we will create our own study with bloodtests before during and after....
as for my take on GM foods i wouldnt feed them to my dog