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originally posted by: TinkerHaus
originally posted by: liejunkie01
a reply to: TinkerHaus
I would avise you to research the topic.
The is evidence for more ice on the land and sea, hence the article I linked along with the op's.
rationalwiki.org...
Watts has expressed a skeptical view of anthropogenic CO2-driven global warming, believing the Sun, not man, is the driver of climatic change.[27][28] He has said that in 1990 he had "been fully engaged in the belief that CO2 was indeed the root cause of the global warming problem," but that he later changed his thinking after learning more about the science and "found it to be lacking."[29] Watts more recently expressed his position as: "Now I'm in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors." He further avers that what most bothers him about scientists and others who claim global warming is serious, is that, "They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society."[30] Watts is a signatory to The Heartland Institute's Manhattan Declaration which calls on world leaders to "reject the views expressed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" and abandon "all taxes, regulations, and other interventions intended to reduce emissions of CO2".[31] In spite of his climate change skepticism, Watts says that he is "green in many ways",[32] mainly to get the United States "disengaged from Middle East Oil."[33]
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Andy Watts is a climate denier. Of course he's going to spin that...
The Video Andy Watts Tried to Ban
The Eccentricity Cycle (Elliptical Cycle)
This is the longer cycle. About every 100k years. When the Earth orbit is elliptical we spend less time close to the sun in the span of a single year. This means we get less solar energy on an annual basis, and tends to cool the Earth.
According to Ralph Keeling, Director of the CO2 program at Scripps Institute of Oceanography: “The ice sheets melt when the ice sheet is exposed to more summer sunlight. This happens when the northern summer aligns with the point of closest approach between the earth and sun. The point of closest approach is known as perihelion. The earth/sun perihelion depends on how elliptical the orbit is. The more elliptical, the closer the approach.”
The Obliquity Cycle (Axial Tilt)
The Axial Tilt, or obliquity, varies to the plane of the Earth's orbit. This tilt, typically around 23 1/2 degrees can vary between 22 and 24 1/2 degrees. That means it can change up to 2.5 degrees over a period of 41,000 years. Increased obliquity can cause summers to be warmer and winters to be colder.
So when our orbit is elliptical and our northern hemisphere, which is mostly land mass is tilted toward the sun, we can melt our way out of an ice age pretty fast in fact it only takes a few thousand years. As we attain a more circular orbit and the combined effects of the tilt and wobble work together in their natural cycles the Earth has a chance to cool again and we go back into an ice age.
Inversely, decreased obliquity can cause cooler summers that in combination with other factors can help push the climate system into ice ages, when the this cycle is favorable for that condition.
We are currently in a decreasing phase, which under normal circumstances, without the excess GHG’s, would cool the climate system.
The Precession Cycle (Wobble)
Next is precession, or wobble. This cycle occurs every 26,000 years. This gyroscopic wobble of the earths axis is driven by tidal forces which are influenced by our sun and moon. The Earth is actually not perfectly round so the gravitational pull tugs the axis over time creating the wobble cycle. Now there's a technical term for you.
This wobble can cause a difference in the types of seasons one polar hemisphere will experience over the other. The hemisphere at perihelion (closest to the sun) will enjoy an increase in summer solar radiation but a cooler winter, while the opposite hemisphere will have a warmer winter and a cooler summer.
Currently the southern hemisphere is at perihelion, so they are enjoying warmer summers, but cooler winters, which likely contributes to snowfall in the hemisphere.
Watts, a weatherman, which no scientific background says ice is increasing.. So it must be true, right? This single weatherman is more knowledgeable than the thousands of climate scientists researching the issue..
To become a meteorologist, usually you begin by attending a college that offers a degree in meteorology or atmospheric science, although sometimes people who have degrees in math, computer science, physics or engineering will attend a university to get a graduate degree in meteorology and will enter the field that way. Also, military weather forecasters in the Navy, Marines or Air Force can attend special training programs to learn their craft without obtaining a college degree. After college or training, you simply look for and apply for available positions in the branch of meteorology that you feel most interested in or best suited to.
originally posted by: liejunkie01
a reply to: lostbook
How can you say that?
The warming crowd has been using polar ice data to "prove" warming from the beginning.
This is the reason for the alarm.
Now evidence is showing otherwise and the warming crowd wants to spin it a totally different way, or totally ignore the evidence.
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer
It was religion that trapped humanity in that thinking and science that proved otherwise.
originally posted by: FinalCountdown
It seems that the ice caps in Antarctica are expanding.
Could this mean that we are entering another ice age?
Should we create a tax to impose on all to combat the incoming coldness?
Maybe we should all do our part and increase your carbon footprint.
We need to raise global temps stat!
Link
The sea ice surrounding Antarctica, which, as I reported in my book, has been steadily increasing throughout the period of satellite measurement that began in 1979, has hit a new all-time record high for areal coverage.
originally posted by: Kukri
Funny you should post this. I left the ice cream out on the counter last night and it too increased in surface area.
Ice cream countertops, I'ma get me some of them!
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
They could re-dispatch Turney's ship of fools :>) a reply to: intrptr
Watts, a weatherman, which no scientific background says ice is increasing.. So it must be true, right? This single weatherman is more knowledgeable than the thousands of climate scientists researching the issue..