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Plasma Displays Sentient Qualities?

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posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 06:12 AM
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There is a conference going on today and yesterday in California hosted by Henrik Palmgren of Red Ice Radio - The Secret Space Program Conference 2014.

I was watching the livestream of a Roundtable discussion last evening when I heard the statement that plasma seems to display sentient qualities. I had never heard that before. I know that the term "plasma" was coined because it looks blood cell-like, but thinking of it as possibility sentient is a new one for me.

Googling "plasma seems sentient" brought up a page on the book Lightquest by Andrew Collins. I see there this reference to physicist David Bohm:


American quantum physicist David Bohm was perhaps the first to realize that seas of electrons making up plasma environments act in a manner that might be described as cell-like in behaviour, in other words they mimicked the actions of cellular life. He posited that some form of proto intelligence existing under normal circumstances in a deeper level of reality might be able to interpenetrate plasma environments for the duration of their existence. Such ideas have been examined more closely in recent years by plasma physicists such as Vadim N. Tsytovich of the General Physics Institute at the Russian Academy of Science in Moscow, working alongside colleagues from the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany, and the University of Sydney, Australia. Tsytovich is convinced that cell-like life forms existing in plasma environments might have helped kick start life on this planet, or that it might exist quite separate to biological life. In fact, he proposes that plasma life might exist in space, and that SETI like initiatives might pay better dividends if they were to search for signs of intelligence within the plasma environments that make up as much as 95 percent of the universe as we know it.

www.andrewcollins.com...


Now I'm wondering: Is plasma cosmology integrated into ufology at present?




posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

I think there is some speculation doing the rounds that suggests some type of plasma life forms live in our upper atmosphere, on the edge of space.

mysteriousuniverse.org...

www.tarrdaniel.com...

Cannot comment as to the validity all the same.

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posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 06:43 AM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

I will have to look into this further if I can. My theory on human sentience is that it is caused by quantum fields that are produced by the neurons in our brain - and then those neurons work together to form a larger collective.

I wonder if there are some similar properties between plasma fields and neurons that would allow for quantum consciousness to occur. This is a new area of study for me, thanks.

In essence, there is a lot of energy available in plasma as well as a unique state of matter for electrons. What kind of quantum effects are produced by plasma, if any?
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posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 06:47 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Mary Rose

Cannot comment as to the validity all the same.


Being neutral is a positive thing in my opinion. It invites investigation.



posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

Totally agree considering there are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophy.




posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

It is my opinion that the Universe consists of a conscious substrate. This substrate is the Quantum Foam. It's only distinguishable consistent aspect is a desire to evolve.

One of the outcomes of this, is that life can and will exist along any energy variances. Assembly is required and is permitted through fairly consistent employment of constants. Once a life form is able to use these constants it becomes able to survive as a prototype and prosper. The life forms will continue to evolve and seek further control over their immediate environs to protect their gains.

A plasma based life form, due to the highly energized state of being, would evolve faster. Beyond seeking nutrients, dumping waste and procreation, they may have no reason to develop minimal survival oriented intelligence if they prove successful without it. More of a machine orientation toward living then one of questioning existence and its termination. More like mayflies than dolphins or us.

Intelligence and self referencing behaviors are not mutually necessary. To conclude that plasma beings are self-actualized is speculation. They may never have needed a mechanism to achieve individual consciousness or a need to communicate externally. Awakening them to a greater responsiveness to external stimuli is something to ponder.

Would we be visible and accepted as fellow travelers?



posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 02:42 PM
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Could there be a link between the alien greys that have been described as looking like human embryos and the plasma which to me looks like Placenta. Some people have claimed that that UFO's have materialized from the plasma with greys inside them. Like an embryo emerging from the Placenta. Just a thought!



posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 03:17 PM
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I have heard of spacecraft being actually navigated with consciousness.

If plasma is conscious, maybe it responds to commands and acts as a transportation device?




posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 03:27 PM
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"Tsytovich is convinced that cell-like life forms existing in plasma environments might have helped kick start life on this planet, or that it might exist quite separate to biological life."

they think plasma might be responsible for consciousness, no actual proof



posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

Don't know about consciousness considering, as of yet, we don't even know what that is never mind where it resides in respect to ourselves but control of a vehicle through reading our thought processes is already viable although not quite as of yet practical due to safety concerns.

www.tum.de...

www.dailymail.co.uk...
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posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Mary Rose

I think there is some speculation doing the rounds that suggests some type of plasma life forms live in our upper atmosphere, on the edge of space.

mysteriousuniverse.org...

www.tarrdaniel.com...

Cannot comment as to the validity all the same.


There are better environments for plasma lifeforms. e.g: Sun Fauna.



posted on Jun, 29 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: Mary Rose
I have heard of spacecraft being actually navigated with consciousness.

If plasma is conscious, maybe it responds to commands and acts as a transportation device?



powerlisting.wikia.com...



posted on Jun, 30 2014 @ 07:40 AM
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Returning to the link in the OP:


www.andrewcollins.com...


And following up on that page on the book Lightquest by Andrew Collins, I clicked on a link at the bottom which took me to a transcript of an interview with him about the book.

Asked what inspired him to write the book:


The inspiration lies in 35 years of investigating UFOs and having found no evidence whatsoever to convince me that the incredible phenomena seen and experienced by so many people has anything to do with aliens piloting space hardware from worlds afar. The evidence is simply not there. Very often the most baffling close encounter cases simply involve balls of lights, or clusters of lights that then transform to give the structure an overall shape or appearance.

My last hope for the ET theory was going to Roswell in 2009, and investigating the crash story. It took me just 30 minutes to find definitive evidence that what crashed on the Foster ranch out near Corona, New Mexico, in 1947 was a high altitude device, probably launched from White Sands Proving Ground.

People need to become awake to alternative ideas behind the existence of UFO phenomena, and not assume everything unknown seen in the skies is from some distant planet. That’s not how it works.

www.examiner.com...


Maybe there are two kinds of UFO craft - hardware, which are man-made, and sentient entities that only look like craft, as described by Trevor James Constable in They Live in the Sky and The Cosmic Pulse of Life.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Mary Rose

I have heard about that conclusion before, more or less from The Gut threads, and several others.

Man-made, or better yet, the seamless nut bolt craft, that have some advanced technological hardware, and software. Then you the ball of light craft, which has ether been believed by many as manifestations of angels, demons, or gods, to where it just some spooky type of technology. Where the Ufo seems conscious, or more or less alive. Now ether it some seriously advanced hardware, or it an actual living.

Makes one wonder, if some of these are controlled by a joystick, and others are controlled by thought, or in this case, some form of techno-pathy. A joystick would be pretty hard to use for the nutbolt craft, since if a craft is capable of going up, down, backwards, or any general direction, but hey what do I kno about aviation.

While the spooky ones, just become offly hard to imagine. Wether it some organic form of machines, which some sci-fi horrors have depicted with the greys, or it some form of control that use cognitive thought, which probably is only used by some very disciplined life forms.

Meh, those are just my guess tho.



posted on Jul, 1 2014 @ 02:58 PM
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I tend to disbelieve in the possibility of sentient plasma entities. My hypothesis...is that the some balls of light --- commonly referred too as "foofighters" --- are alien starships that are each encased in a magnetically controlled fusion plasma shield.

Besides having the ability for the starship to computer control this plasma, with two offboard magnetic shields surrounding the starship --- one to protect the starship from the fusion plasma ---- the other to encase the plasma with another [outer] magnetic shield. Likewise...the starship's outer magnetic shield can be computer controlled, so as too make the plasma effective for offensive and defensive OP's.

When the starship is under power for flight in areas that lack starlight, the starship must produce it's own photons [as in fusion plasma] in order to feed the micro-mini black hole propulsion unit, that is installed onboard the starship itself.

With just a small amount of seawater stored onboard --- the starship injects a small amount of seawater between the two magnetic shields --- and with extreme magnetic pressure...the fusion process is generated, with sustainable power generation from the plasma as more seawater is injected. The rotation of the starship...induces currents in the plasma, that makes it electrically charged.
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posted on Jun, 30 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: Mary Rose


American quantum physicist David Bohm was perhaps the first to realize that seas of electrons making up plasma environments act in a manner that might be described as cell-like in behaviour, in other words they mimicked the actions of cellular life. He posited that some form of proto intelligence existing under normal circumstances in a deeper level of reality might be able to interpenetrate plasma environments for the duration of their existence. Such ideas have been examined more closely in recent years by plasma physicists such as Vadim N. Tsytovich of the General Physics Institute at the Russian Academy of Science in Moscow, working alongside colleagues from the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany, and the University of Sydney, Australia. Tsytovich is convinced that cell-like life forms existing in plasma environments might have helped kick start life on this planet, or that it might exist quite separate to biological life. In fact, he proposes that plasma life might exist in space, and that SETI like initiatives might pay better dividends if they were to search for signs of intelligence within the plasma environments that make up as much as 95 percent of the universe as we know it.

www.andrewcollins.com...


Here is a YouTube video of an interview of Andrew Collins:


Published on Aug 5, 2012

. . . We met up with writer and explorer Andrew Collins at The Barge Inn, Honeystreet, near Pewsey. Andrew shared with us his guide to seeing and interacting with UFOs, mystery lights and plasma intelligences all detailed in his new book LightQuest . . .

The book begins with Andrews experiences in Roswell and previous to this the Marfa Lights which gave rise to investigations to the true nature of UFOs rather than the archetypal idea of nuts and bolts flying saucers.

Many abductees have told of seeing lights just prior to their abduction experience and although many of the abductee stories show similar attributes Andrew feels they are based around what we are expecting to happen and that experiences from say the 1950s descriptions will be of very basic spacecraft interiors whilst now they are more hitech and sophisticated.

The geology of the landscape and fault lines seem to play a major part in where one might see the mystery lights commonly associated with UFO or ET encounters.

Andrew talks about plasma which is, in essence, a see of free electrons and positively charged ions but it may be the basis of life itself not just carbon based life forms but other forms as well. UFOs are buoyant plasmoids that can transform themselves into a structured form. . . .

. . . Andrew has carried out interesting research and compiled a very user friendly book that enables the reader to know where the best places to visit are around the world to have their own experience -- their own LightQuest. He has also included a creative visualisation to use to assist in your own quest. . .

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 01:12 AM
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Very interesting, and it sort of ties in with the work of Jay Alfred, I think.
www.unexplained-mysteries.com...



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: kiro8lak

Thank you!

I have a new source to explore.



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: kiro8lak

I see he's the author of Dark Plasma Theory, which says that dark matter is largely in the form of non-baryonic particles or non-standard dark plasma, and predicts terrestrial dark plasma (TDP) life forms.

I see three books he's written, Brains and Realities, Dark Earth, and Our Invisible Bodies, on Free-Ebooks.net.

His website Dark Plasma Theory has a home page in English but the rest of it is not in English:


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Does anyone know what language that is?



posted on Jul, 3 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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It;s Latin, and French etc all mixed up. The second paragraph is the same as the first. . . . will get back re meaning' etc but I seem to remember that publishers use this for some reason - will get back
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