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originally posted by: Seede
... The oldest Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts by Paleographic confirmation that I am aware of were the dead sea scrolls. These manuscripts are very close to the Masoretic texts of today and confirm the Hebrew bible as we have it today. ...
its either the creation of males and females or hermaphrodites. i don't think it's hermaphrodites so what you see there are males and females being created in the image of elohim, all called adam. adam is a plural word, no doubt.
Text i'm getting pretty sick and tired of being referred to as an after thought.
originally posted by: UNIT76
..how could i mix anything with anything if i was just using the bible as a source?
it (the bible) claims, "every knee will bend"
that's a pretty big claim...?
does the urantia book say anything like that?
..does the urantia book even reference a God and have fairytale stories about it?
..is God going to distribute copies of the urantia book to us all?
that's the problem with things such as 'the urantia group' (and anything & everything else)
thanks for mentioning the NWO/lucifer parts (was that from the urantia book or the bible?)
amongst other things, it (the bible) also foretold the attempt at world government & claims there have been previous attempts.. it implies (inbetween being in a blackout and being too lazy to check, i'm pretty sure it implicitly states things to the effect that;..) the culmination of all this is something that would grow slowly, over many, many generations..
it's thing like this that don't make sense to me..
It's purpose is to help the individual develop their own relationship with God. Just like any other relationship it is between you and that person, God is a person so your relationship is personal. The origins of the book are explained in the book. It is meant to stand on its teachings and not confirmed sources. The authors are said to be Celestial beings, but they primarily gathered and sifted human knowledge and only resorted to revelation when the concept to be presented had no human source. To be honest with you the Urantia Book only seems to work for those who hunger for more knowledge about God. If you are satisfied with what you have it will do you little good.
since the issue of authorship doesn't seem to be a problem just now (hmm, isn't that the whole point) but moving right along so we can, uhhh, get into that,
if it's about developing a relationship with God and 'supposedly' authored by celestial beings.. why not opt for the book that is 'supposedly' authored by God? which, funnily enough, is about developing a relationship with God
..but i'm being polite with all that, there's waaay more to it
what's the problem with who cain supposedly married? ..i think the bible would've recorded twins if there were any, it does say Adam had other sons and daughters but that's not what i'm rambling about (that might come up later, like the melchizidek thing is coming up now) ..how about the part earlier in genesis where God creates males and females and tells them to multiply and subdue (looks for bible) uhh, well, there's a blackout here just now, if i wasn't in the dark just now i'd have something quasi-relevant to say
/scuttles off to make use of last 10 minutes of candle/laptop light
something rattled around in my brain the other night..
Melchizedek and Abraham (Hebrews 7)
…2to whom also Abraham apportioned a tenth part of all the spoils, was first of all, by the translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then also king of Salem, which is king of peace. 3Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he remains a priest perpetually. 4Now observe how great this man was to whom Abraham, the patriarch, gave a tenth of the choicest spoils.…
tune in at 11 when miss shem gets stripped of her crown
originally posted by: UB2120
originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation
Sorry i can't remember where exactly but genesis does mention somewhere that there are many people living outside the Garden of Eden.
Genesis 4:16 talks about how Cain left the Garden and went into the Land of Nod and found himself a wife.
Genesis 4:16 talks about how Cain left the Garden and went into the Land of Nod and found himself a wife.
TextYou must not have read it all, because the reason they are different is because they are the first PROCREATIVE adam.
originally posted by: Seede
a reply to: UB2120
Genesis 4:16 talks about how Cain left the Garden and went into the Land of Nod and found himself a wife.
No the KJV nor the JPS bibles do not say that.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch; and he builded a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son Enoch.
The scriptures do not even infer that Cain found a wife in that land called Nod. The OT tradition tells us that Cain took his wife which was given to Him, through the sanctification (marriage), to the land of Nod. It does not say that Cain went to Nod and found a wife.
Also the Adam and wife had already been evicted from the garden long before the woman conceived Cain and Able. Blood was not spilled in the garden of Eden which was taken to the celestial paradise. The reason that Eden was off limits after sin was committed is that God had pronounced death while the tree of life was still available in the garden. The garden became off limits to keep the people from everlasting sin and was eventually removed from the terrestrial realm.