Weird California sighting

They are probably talking satellites capabilities, not fastmovers or space access.

Here's some grainy photos...

This aircraft was flying around the area before and after the above. It could be the ‘parent/large’ aircraft that was part of the formation that we saw. Who knows. It was not a MiG-29, no tell-tale smokey exhaust!

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a reply to: E92M3

So is this an unknown fighter? Is it the rumored companion to the F-117? The blog you linked sort of goes in that direction.

What is that ? Concord style nose and very large tail ?

a reply to: E92M3

So they can identify a MiG-29, but not an F-15? That's an Eagle.

a reply to: Zaphod58

i found it funny they tic tacs did everything to mimic the fighters EXCEPT put out friendly IFF codes, clearly the 'others' could decipher they encrypted comms so why not squawk a friendly code as to not be seen as a threat and there for not chased?


unless they wanted to be seen...


im still shocked they dint fire on them

a reply to: Zaphod58
It could be , but on the second grainy picture the rear of the craft look going up not like the Eagle who is straight, but the picture is grainy and realy difficult to identify the real type . It doesn't look like a Mig 29 , what type could have this shape if not a Mig or a Eagle ?, Sukhoi ? the pictures are from the Groom Area so all is possible.

a reply to: penroc3

Even if they had the days codes, they'd still be seen on radar. And there's a good chance a CSG still launches to visually identify an unknown that low and close.

a reply to: darksidius

It's an F-15. It's seen from miles away, with atmospheric distortion.

a reply to: Zaphod58
False hope with the grainy picture

a reply to: Zaphod58

exactly so there should be way more footage or at least some sort of EM or radar surveillance, where is that?

i realllly reallllly believe this is PALLADIUM 2.0

im still perplexed as to they they even released this is the first place as it wasn't anything super crazy or a force projection platform

a reply to: penroc3

Doesn't get released. Radar data from the military is almost never released, unless it's degraded pretty significantly.

a reply to: Zaphod58

of course but do you disagree with the tic tac being some sort of PALLADIUM 2.0?

it has all the same effects and even the tic tac looked like the sub released balloons, and now i bet they have IR/UV/broadband radar reflectors in them at the very least.

if the NAVY wanted to release a real UFO they could have done what the Belgian AF did and release some of the F18 radar data that wasn't anything special just normal radar stuff.


what a better way to pollute the airwaves and the Intel lines with stories of UFO's near a US aircraft carrier that seems to be able to out wit and out fly US interceptors.

when in reality it was a EW exerciser that used subs to release these decoys, we know the US has been going high-tech, cheap, and throw away decoys allot lately.


after all it was a FLEET wide exercise and that includes subs

a reply to: penroc3

Unless that electronic warfare doohickey can project photorealistic holograms straight to the human eyeball I don’t think that explanation works.

How do you account for the fact that highly trained & experienced pilots saw it with the old fashioned Mark I eyeball & said it moved extremely quickly in a straight line. Balloons don’t do that.

a reply to: PhantomTwo

It incorporates physical decoys beyond just balloons, as well as electronic.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Physical decoys that zoom out of sight in moments? Unless Fravor saw it wrong.

a reply to: PhantomTwo

That would fall under the whole "classified" umbrella. No one not working on the program knows much about it. But it is known that they've been developing physical decoys for many years.

a reply to: Zaphod58

So your theory on the tic tacs is that they are targeting decoys?

a reply to: PokeyJoe

They're something being developed by DARPA. They could be part of NEMESIS or another new system.

Do you think they APPEAR to move like reported, or actually DO move like reported (0’ 20k’ in seconds)?
a reply to: Zaphod58