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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 06:13 AM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR

Could you force a something to rapidly lose its energy by mixing it suddenly with something else causing a "shut down"

Would your engine from your other thread have a way of supplying both somethings. (I say yes)


Now, that's an interesting sort of thing to consider. But. Urm. Argh.

I haven't heard about that. But now, THAT would be cool beyond the bounds of coolness.

I am familiar with some of the topics we're dancing about like Morris Dancers. But now, that one. It would sort of fit, wouldn't it.

That would be way too far ahead. Maybe. But then, they've been working it at China Lake and Skunk Works for years. And I was once more informed than I am now that I'm not in that loop at all. What if. BWA HA HA.

eta: I'm not explicitly TRYING to be coy. I finally got where BASSPLYR was going these last few weeks. Someone else will have to discuss this one, I'm not touching it in self defense. In case this outlandish, not possible, beyond, over the top conjecture has a connection to reality. In a sort of mockery:



As a possible very remotely connected person to what this thing turned out to be two or three generations later, if it did, I will not comment about it further in this thread. You are on your own. Dammit. Now I've got to start creeping about looking for hints at work and former work. I wish I had a way to easily extract the "He cannot be here for that" scene from Firefox.

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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: Bedlam

As luck would have it. Its also the last of the hints regarding the greenladys propulsion ill be giving. Ive got other things to ponder....motivate. A bright idea has me surfing the wake on that one.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 12:16 PM
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MHD converters have no moving parts. In 1975 I imagined MHD propulsors where "the engine would be put outside of the vehicle". Such an MHD accelerator would ionize the surrounding air (for example with microwaves), transforming it into a cold plasma, then accelerating it by electromagnetic fields around the external hull. I called that MHD propulsor with external airflow and ionization control an "MHD aerodyne". Such devices are shaped to make use of the Coanda effect in order to suck upstream air and create a partial vacuum area above or in front of them. Moreover the air could be locally accelerated or decelerated by MHD forces all over the surface of the body, eliminating the skin friction and wake turbulence (laminar flow) and even the wave drag. MHD flow control can make completely silent supersonic (and hypersonic) flight possible, even in dense air, because those force fields are powerful enough to suck the flow at the stagnation regions, where the shock waves take place. No sonic boom, no sound barrier. But more interesting: classically the temperature rises very quickly behind shock waves, so the thermal ablation of materials at hypersonic velocities is a big problem. But since the sound barrier and the heat barrier can be cancelled thanks to MHD, the hypersonic flight is written in our technological future.


This is the type of technology I think the Greenlady uses or something similar to this but more advanced.
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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 12:53 PM
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a reply to: Kurokage

That idea sure sounds familiar.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: mbkennel

Then it would be the alkali seeding used for the MHD generator.


Well, you got to put something in the intake. Either you can ionize the absolute dog crap out of a huge volume of intake air, which would be tough, or you could burn something ionize-y in the inlet that would stay ionized all the way through. Or something else.


Well, I guess the EPA and OSHA are going to be flattened, so, let's party like it's the atomic age?

1964
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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Also if something is losing its energy via photons whats it losing its energy using less of.


Generation of acoustic waves? Collisional thermal conductivity?

I'm interested in the idea how plasma could increase the effective speed of sound locally, to prevent shock & boom formation.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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The thing that scares me about these plasma drag reduction or even sonic boom elimination is what happens to the airframe if suddenly there is a failure and the plane has to bear with the hypersonic airstream in full.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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If she is, we should speculate her reconn suite. What sorta gear she packing. Cameras. Sensors. Optics. What new technologies could there be that you figure hes gotta want or have.


Ground penetrating radar, high definition thermal imaging, extremely sensitive directional microphones, a network package to tap into and intercept Wifi signals to digitally snoop on what's going on. A package that allows it to identify enemy electronic installations like radar, missile launchers, etc.


Support. Are there other aircraft that support her. Other than specialized KCs. Like a dark star or a rq180. What roll would that asset play.


You could get away with what we already have, most likely F35's as they would be sitting back waiting to intercept and kill whatever would be coming after it as they wouldn't know they were there and some kind of tanker to refuel for extended missions.


Modular suites for the greenlady. Would you want swapable mission specific or catered reconn suites. Maybe a limited strike suite.


You'd probably want it to be able to jam communications radar, etc. and have the support craft conduct the heavy lifting part of the operation.

My opinion based on my limited knowledge at least.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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Just about any strategic ISR platform is going to be modular when it comes to payload, to give it more flexibility. That's why they're testing the UPA for the Global Hawk.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Maybe they have finally made plasma engines that have a green color due to a boron like derivitive used to boost speed?



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 07:35 PM
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Well outside edwards right now. Mondays are slow there but maybe theyll have some things out n about



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 03:21 AM
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A movable spike via electrical / plasma means would be a lot less weight than a mechanical system.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 10:21 AM
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Well, my spot i like to go to near Edwards has some high strangeness going on. Last few times ive gone over the month ive seen some very strange stuff. Last night was no exception. I wont say what but its weird stuff. Not sure its 100 percent air force related but its definitly military. Or at least i want to believe it is....i hope it is.

On the upside apart from the weirdness last night. My friend and i were confronted at about 75 foot distance while alone on a deserted road at 12:30 am while hiking back to our car by a Puma. He crossed the road right in front of us. Paused mid road out in the open, looked at us as if considering, then thought otherwise and bounded up a hill. Mountain lions look a whole lot bigger in real life when theres nothing in between you and it....and youre not armed. The power that animal demonstrated while bounding up that hill was intimidating.

Things i do to satisfy my curiosity.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: yuppa

No. Look for something other than an additive. No funky seeding material is making the green glow.

Stare at the engine design Mbkennel made a thread about and think about what that engines doing different and then consider how that may make a green glow.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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Assuming what going in the front comes out the back.....
is it that ion plasma annular injector?

And I'm assuming this engine isn't limited for just fast flight. Also for subsonic flight. Like in a B-21.


Supersonic Magnetic Advanced Generation Jet Electric Turbine (S-MAGJET) described herein, and a subsonic derivative, MAGJET, integrate a gas power turbine, superconducting electric power and propulsion generation, and magnetic power flux field systems along with an ion plasma annular injection combustor which utilizes alternative petroleum-based fuel and combustion cycles to create a hybrid turbine turbomachine for aerospace propulsion. The propulsion unit is able to achieve a dramatic increase in horsepower, combustion and propulsion efficiency, and weight reduction. In addition, the turbomachinery structures may be disposed within an exo-skeleton architecture that achieves an increase in thrust to weight ratio with a concomitant increase in fuel efficiency and power generation over traditional gas turbine technology today. The engine continuously adjusts the temperature, pressure and mass airflow requirements using an electromagnetic power management system architecture. Engine performance may be controlled across the entire desired flight envelope, whether subsonic, transonic or supersonic flight conditions.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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Ok. Lifes gotten busy lately with trying to find a job and stuff. Ill be off the aviation forum for the forseable future.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Good luck!

Hopefully you find something quickly.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: grey580

I have two priorities in my life right now.

Finding work. Im destitute literally, can barely afford to feed myself and my health is reflecting the stress. So yeah gotta get that fixed. Looking into gardening and landscaping as a career. seriously.

My main motivation is id like to live together with my girlfriend and work on developing a deeper relationship. Hopefully live a simple life far away doing landscaping or gardening.

So no more aviation forum for me anymore. Period. Time for me to move on in life.




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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 02:09 PM
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I've been following this thread almost since it's beginning. Stopped watching it for awhile and just recently got back to it.

All of this video is worthless until 11:05 onward. Warning: annoying music so you might want to mute.




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Edit: Most of the video is just goofy people pointing lasers at ufos or whatever they think they see. The last part after 11:05 is a hidden gem in this video though.
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

well my lawn maintenance guy makes a killing.

So you can definately make some crazy money doing lawns.

good luck man.




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