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posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: punkinworks10
a reply to: BASSPLYR

I dont remeber the specifics, but in the mid/late eighties, one of the cruise missle MFG's, built a prototype "stealthy" cruise missle. Their aim was to minimize the thermal footprint of the vehicle from the ground. The thing that I remeber the most was the use of a "boron slurry" fuel. Sound familiar, the boron slurry had a very low exhaust temp., making it much harder for an IR seeker to lock on.


The IR seeker might miss it, but a tuned optical seeker wouldn't

And yes, the boron-doped fuels, aka 'zip fuels', also burn with a bright emerald green exhaust. Which is probably where the green in the Green Lady comes from. And historically, the fuel was nasty, toxic, dangerous and fouled the engines quickly. For a cruise missile the last part doesn't matter as much---no long-term maintenance is intended.


The necessity to use the boron zip fuel would be considered a bug, not a feature. Surely "They" would prefer a next generation craft which could use standard kerosene-based jet fuel, and gain the performance necessary with slick low-drag technologies and advanced & efficient engine designs like the ones being hinted at here. Plasma: MHD in the engine (suck the air with voltage) and/or electrically/inductively driven high-bypass turbogenerators (spin the fan with induction), and plasma outside to control laminar flow and skin drag.
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posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: mbkennel

Funny because i have spoken with two different former lockheed engineers who both happened to mention the importance of their work with boundary layers and laminar flow.



posted on Oct, 31 2016 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Bfirez
a reply to: mbkennel

Funny because i have spoken with two different former lockheed engineers who both happened to mention the importance of their work with boundary layers and laminar flow.


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Laminar flow:
en.wikipedia.org...

and

Boundary Layer:
en.wikipedia.org...

have been the bane of aerodynamicists (and hydrodynamicists)
since the early days of Jet Flight where until recently it has been
mostly guesswork and educated experience as to how to START and
CONTROL the placement and movement of both turbulent and smooth
airflows around objects such as wings and fuselages and through objects
such jet engines and exhausts.

Until molecular dynamics software and particle animation came about
mostly because of such computer graphics titans at D'assault, Softimage,
Alias, Evans and Sutherand and others in the mid-to-late 1980's,
aircraft design was the domain of clay models, wind tunnels
and looooong design cycles!

Iterations of designs were few and far between unlike today where
my desktop system (quad CPU with 64-cores via AMD Abu Dhabi Opterons
and over a terabyte of RAM and 8 GPU's) allow me to run hundreds if not
THOUSANDS of airflow simulations EVERY DAY allowing me to optimize my
drone designs for optimal compressor blade sweep and attack angle
(i.e. S-curve with variable pitch is best!) and optimal hull design for
best lift and manueverability (i.e. a Hopeless Diamond-style
compound-curved rather than faceted lifting-body shape!).

This means that modern aerodynamicists can run through almost
every design scenario as many times as they want under multiple
simulated flight conditions and get real physics-based data to
support any given design decision.

So not only can I get a NICE-LOOKING design,
I can get an optimally-performing one too !!!!

Innovations such as golf-ball-like hull-dimpling,
raised-spiral ridging, S-shaped compressor blades,
intentional vortex configurations and non-cavitating
impellers, compound-curve and/or hemispherical combustion
chambers, non-traditionally-shaped cavity resonators,
lithographed EM-band refractors and anti-reflective
surfaces and interiors, foamed metal heat sinks, etc.

All these make for nearly perfect computer designed
and simulated flight systems that Waaaaaaay outperform
anything built before the year 2005 when all three areas
of molecular dynamics, particle animation and finite
element analysis FINALLY merged into single application
software systems that nearly ANYONE can use!

And with the advent of GPU-based supercomputing,
that what used to cost us $500,000 for CATIA-style
software modules and $8,000,000 worth of SGI
Infinite-Reality supercomputers now costs me less
than $35,000 in a box barely the size of a microwave oven!

Even that ridiculous 1.4 PetaFLOP 400 AMD S9150 GPU cluster
which was bought by our parent company for 2.4 million dollars
a few years ago, is now costing only $280,000 for the same
32-bit single-precision mocelcular dynamics simulating horsepower!

(i should note that the special order versions of AMD S9150's
-- not the old 2.5 teraFLOP S9150's -- about 5 to 6 Teraflops of
64-bit double precision for $6000 per card while AMD Radeon
R9 Fury X's can do 8.6 teraflops at single-precision 32 bits
for $700 per card!)

That's nearly a 90% reduction in
computing cost in less than 3 or 4 years!

And with AMD's VEGA processors coming out next June.
that $280,000 GPU cost will probably drop down to less than
$50,000 which means almost ANY small-to-medium business
can lease/buy nearly exactly what Lockheed Martin and
Boeing have to design airplanes at a fraction of the price!

So go design and simulate your OWN 4-passenger
near-hypersonic aerospace minivan !!!!!!!!!!!!




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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 03:04 AM
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a reply to: StargateSG7

Reading your posts are not dissimilar to a hangover, they make me feel sick and give me a headache.

I don't know if it's the way it's written, that it reads like you are typing at a thousand miles per hour and hence my brain tries to read that fast, that it contains wholly unimportant computer specifications and I am trying to separate sense from irrelevance at 1000mph or the mixture of all of the above.

I'm going to read a book for a bit, Thomas the Tank Engine I think my soothe my fried neurons :-(



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 05:06 AM
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originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: StargateSG7

Reading your posts are not dissimilar to a hangover, they make me feel sick and give me a headache.

I don't know if it's the way it's written, that it reads like you are typing at a thousand miles per hour and hence my brain tries to read that fast, that it contains wholly unimportant computer specifications and I am trying to separate sense from irrelevance at 1000mph or the mixture of all of the above.

I'm going to read a book for a bit, Thomas the Tank Engine I think my soothe my fried neurons :-(


Thankfully it's not just me feeling like that about his posts. Maybe he needs to get out more away from those computers



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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He make funny speak,make words bad.I need pretty pictures.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:49 AM
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originally posted by: nelloh62

originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: StargateSG7

Reading your posts are not dissimilar to a hangover, they make me feel sick and give me a headache.

I don't know if it's the way it's written, that it reads like you are typing at a thousand miles per hour and hence my brain tries to read that fast, that it contains wholly unimportant computer specifications and I am trying to separate sense from irrelevance at 1000mph or the mixture of all of the above.

I'm going to read a book for a bit, Thomas the Tank Engine I think my soothe my fried neurons :-(


Thankfully it's not just me feeling like that about his posts. Maybe he needs to get out more away from those computers


he writes like that because most of it is copy / pasted from elsewhere.

The writing style is exactly what you find in technical manuals, the unnecessary computer specs are the only thing he really adds himself, he's a PC geek not an engineer.

I'm not doing a character assassination , just an observation. One of my tech mates at BAE emails in the same fashion, far too much extraneous detail that has no bearing on the subject at hand.

Tech folks use concepts to try and demonstrate knowledge, engineers or other "doing" type people such as myself use personal observation (things we've seen or physically tried ourselves) to get our point or opinion across.
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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 09:40 AM
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Is this the green lady??

www.nbcnews.com...



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 12:03 PM
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Woaw its pretty fast , and realy green some expert on ATS can says yes or not if this our pretty green lady.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

www.youtube.com...

possibly related, after seeing that it reminds me of this, at around 46:40, the guy (who seems somewhat credible, long time groom lake visitor) mentions an incredibly fast bright green craft in the air space there.

edit: an another vid

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: mzinga
Is this the green lady??

www.nbcnews.com...


Interesting video - especially the scene from the airport. I've seen bollides fly overhead and they usually have a slight trail.
Rocket-debris, I assume, would have a trail as well.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: TXRabbit

I was thinking the same thing - at first I couldn't find a trail, but if you watch the second vid BlackDog added (it seems to be the same event), you can see some debris start to trail off at the end...



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: mzinga

This does look fairly close to what I've seen personally, the quality itself makes it difficult to tell but it looks pretty close.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: TheBogmonster

originally posted by: nelloh62

originally posted by: Forensick
a reply to: StargateSG7

Reading your posts are not dissimilar to a hangover, they make me feel sick and give me a headache.

I don't know if it's the way it's written, that it reads like you are typing at a thousand miles per hour and hence my brain tries to read that fast, that it contains wholly unimportant computer specifications and I am trying to separate sense from irrelevance at 1000mph or the mixture of all of the above.

I'm going to read a book for a bit, Thomas the Tank Engine I think my soothe my fried neurons :-(


Thankfully it's not just me feeling like that about his posts. Maybe he needs to get out more away from those computers


he writes like that because most of it is copy / pasted from elsewhere.

The writing style is exactly what you find in technical manuals, the unnecessary computer specs are the only thing he really adds himself, he's a PC geek not an engineer.

I'm not doing a character assassination , just an observation. One of my tech mates at BAE emails in the same fashion, far too much extraneous detail that has no bearing on the subject at hand.

Tech folks use concepts to try and demonstrate knowledge, engineers or other "doing" type people such as myself use personal observation (things we've seen or physically tried ourselves) to get our point or opinion across.



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You only have it PARTIALLY RIGHT !!!

I am a tech person! But I also have LOTS of personal experience and failure
with aeronautical systems (i.e. mostly flight control and synthetic vision systems).
I was also the designer and lead coder of a MASSIVE 70 million line grid-processing /
network supercomputing system that is literally the most powerful graphics
supercomputing system in the world! So while I have NO actual degree in
Electrical Engineering or Mechanical Engineering, I think I have more than
enough "School of Hard Knocks" learning to compensate for the lack of
the actual piece of Ivy League parchment!

I should note though....ALL my designs are thoroughly vetted, simulated and
tested by real-world accredited professional engineers....JUST IN CASE !!!!

The hardware specs were put in just to showcase that we
have SERIOUSLY POWERFUL hardware and software to back
up what we say.

It also helps I have access to MBA's, MSc's and PhD's from
UBC, SFU, UofA, Stanford, Princeton, Cambridge, Oxford,
Waterloo, Queens, McGill, UofT, MIT, Georgia Tech, Harvard and Yale!
So I think we've got the educational chops to pull off what we say!

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Plus I love using a possible semblance of OCD to inject
ridiculous, if not explosive, expulsions of Verbal Diarrhea
to inflict frontal lobe and/or executive function overload
into your daily cognitive programming!

Plus I just might be a former and/or current cyberwarfare spy! OR NOT!

Or maybe I just really DO work out of an East Vancouver
warehouse shipping XXX VHS tapes to India and Pakistan
doing all these ATS postings for personal sport as I get my
life together so as to FINALLY move out of Mom's Basement
and FINALLY getting my driver's licence after 20 years and
FINALLY NOT have to deal with my mom trying to setup
undesired Blind Dates with her co-worker's purple-haired,
20-piercings, McJob-less 34 year old neice! NO NO NO !!!!
I ain't doing it MOM !!!!! And stay out of my sock drawer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: StargateSG7

verbal diarrhea for sure, as fas as a cyber warrior goes I would verture closer to disinfo agent



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: Bfirez
a reply to: StargateSG7

verbal diarrhea for sure, as fas as a cyber warrior goes I would verture closer to disinfo agent


Nah...we were only foreign cyber SUB-contractors
to the NSA and DIA and NOT disinfo agents although
we still work out of our private cyberwarfare offices
in Vancouver, and Toronto, Canada, Colorado Springs
and Washington DC for various private, if not underhanded,
parties and purposes.

Anyways, that still doesn't negate the fact that
I still have more info on the Green Lady than you
can shake a fig leaf at, escpecially since I have the
PHOTOS TO PROVE IT...I will just say na na nya na na !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: StargateSG7

lol.... well I hope you don't get an unexpected knock on your door.

Don't forget to set your datadump just in case you get picked up.



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 06:46 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

No, it's not just you. What had long been one of the most interesting and important recent threads on ATS has taken a definite turn towards irrelevant twaddle since this kid has shown up. Please grow up or go away!



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 07:08 PM
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Videos are intriguing..Bolides flash,thought jet exhaust was a constant light,like an afterburner..



posted on Nov, 1 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: vinomech
a reply to: Forensick

No, it's not just you. What had long been one of the most interesting and important recent threads on ATS has taken a definite turn towards irrelevant twaddle since this kid has shown up. Please grow up or go away!



Just because I'm twenty years younger than you,
doesn't mean I don't know my stuff and since you
wish to VEER BACK to the main course, I will give
you a hint from waaaay back in the 1990's/2000's
when THIS BABY ruled the high flying roost!

Remember this baby Zed?
files.abovetopsecret.com...

Isn't that your desk on the lower left?

Just so ya know though there is a MUCH NEWER
HIGH FLYER OUT THAN THIS ONE !!!!!!!

You might recognize an older project of yours
in this one, where a few mods have been made
but is otherwise nearly the same shape but MUCH
faster and higher than the older one!

Beyond the B-21:
files.abovetopsecret.com...


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