It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Russell Brand: Fox News is ‘fanatical, terrorist, propagandist’ and ‘more dangerous than ISIS

page: 3
82
<< 1  2    4  5  6 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:59 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

When I call myself by my nationality, or my religion, I am saying what I am to the world. An introduction of myself, a bit of background to the "who". It is the same as saying I am a mother, grandmother, teacher, care giver, business woman. The "who" of who we are is in all these things that we happen to be.

That is not violent. Violence is behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something. Announcing myself as who I am, what makes me, me... is a not even a non-violent action - it's the act of a friend reaching out for friendship.

If I had to stop having any belief at all, and had to stop calling myself by any of the multiple names of what makes me who I am... quite frankly I would no longer be human.

Being human is to be a unique individual, have beliefs, practice certain things because for you they work, carry on some of those practices of your parents because you agreed with them and enjoyed them, do certain things because that is just who you are and what you do.

Without individuality, we loose our humanity... we become automatons or drones. In individuality is beauty in the highest form.

It's fun to eat different foods, to sit with people on the floor because they don't use couches in their little world, its awesome to sit at the kitchen table with a new friend over coffee and learn of the individuality of another person.

But will I stop the practices I enjoy which make me uniquely me? Will I stop believing in God in my own way and manner? Never... because I never plan on being anything other than the human being I am.

Violence always begins with thinking your way is BETTER than someone else's way. That is when violence starts, it starts with the belief that your way is better than anyone else's - because then that "betterness" decides it needs to propagate itself in others, and later, once large enough, when met with resistance always turns to force.

ANY idea of "betterness" is what needs to be taught as wrong. When taught to be humble, when taught that everyone has their own way and it's okay to be different, when taught to respect others... that never leads to violence... and oddly, every religion teaches this lesson.

It's people who ignore these teachings and follow their own ego who get into trouble...And this happens with some atheists, deists and religious people all...

So saying that having a belief that is different from someone needs to be eradicated because your way is "better" than my way... that is the beginning of violence, and violence will come from it after it propagates itself long enough to grow... because then the force will begin, as it always does.

It is good to understand the root cause, and continue to teach children acceptance and humility and love and hope they learn to control their own ego as they grow, than it is to propagate violence by keeping alive the root of violence.

What I will do, always, is to defend myself and my family against those who ARE violent... because again I am human, and it is instinct to survive. I do not intend to let others in their violence kill the innocent and good humans off, or rob me of my humanity. Remember that, if you ever come knocking on my door with the intent of violence.




posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:00 PM
link   

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: OpinionatedB

See the longer we continue to have these seperations the longer we will continue to see the same crap happening.

I am not a wordster and I am off to bed. So I will leave you with these little bit of food..



kind regards

purp..




That is utopian rhetoric which continues to feed the dystopian society we are living in.
Krishnamutri like Brand makes a lot of logical sense...yes it would be lovely wouldn't it?
But lets be realistic here, there will always be divisions and labels to identify the diversity and differences that make up what is collectively known as the human race. For as long that man has walked this earth those various distinctions have existed, and continue to exist they will.

We will never get rid of the varieties of beliefs, customs, traditions (and don't start on colour)that make us all part of the human family. Do you really want the world Krishnamutri envisions where all the diversities just melt away and we all become 'the same'? I certainly don't.....that would be the two sides of Orwell's 1984 coin.

May I suggest this instead.....



Rainbows
Jane



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:07 PM
link   


Iraq has seen enough dead the last killing spree left over a million dead. Mostly women and children. Bombs caused this. How are more bombs going to help.

a reply to: purplemer

By whom were the bombs used? A bit of selective memory there. The bombings in Iraq were done by the Muslim extremists. Or did you miss that in the news the past few years since the US withdrew troops. The troop withdrawal left Iraq at the mercies of their own security forces. Hate the war we waged all you want BUT we left that place a mess and washed our hands of it. In my view that is the real crime. We knew the Iraqi's were not ready to go it alone, their security forces were being criticized before we left. Every life we lost fighting there was wasted when we watched this ISIS group run through the place.
As for Russel Brand, wow another actor giving his two cents. I'll take Fox news any day over all the other televised news groups. At least Fox is not tied to a political side by employing family members of politicians. Such a subtle thing but a important one to keep in mind.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:11 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

I wonder if Mr. Brand has seen the video on Live Leak that was posted a few days ago. It would be interesting to ask the people of Iraq if they would like a little bombing on ISIS. These people kill indiscriminately, just driving down the road and shooting the car they pull up next to, killing everyone in it. If you escape the shooting they drive you down and finish. At this point it really doesn't matter who created the problem, Bush Cheney, Obama, my mom, whoever, they need to be stopped. It was a truly disturbing video to say the least.

Nobody is driving around Mexico and Central America indiscriminately killing men women and children, But we have no problem spending millions. and taking care of them no questions asked. Why all of a sudden do we abandon the Iraqi people while they die by the 1000 with horrible violence?

This of course wouldn't be a fix but we could make a serious dent in the mass murder of civilians in a country we hung out to dry. This isn't the time to wash our hands of the whole affair, as Americans we are better than that, even though at times it doesn't seem that way.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:22 PM
link   

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: whywhynot


So who gets to decide what free speech we "Need".


All up for free speech for people. I would not grant corporations and banks the same quarter however…


You were railing against Fox, who decides in your utopia Fox bad NBC< CBS, ABC good. Would that be you?



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:27 PM
link   

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
You may not find a lot of support for your thread and opinion, but I'm with you (and Brand) 100%. Stirring up crap is FOX's specialty.


September 12, 2001. This day is and always will be burned into my memory. Russell Brand showed up at MTV, where he was employed, with his drug dealer and the dealers son. Brand was strung out on heroin. Oh, almost forgot. He was dressed as Osama Bin Laden. He was fired 2 days later.

I think Brand takes the cake for "stirring up crap". Just my opinion.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:27 PM
link   
a reply to: OpinionatedB


I am with you 100% here....

Why should we as a people, regardless where we live, stop being 'Individuals'
That would mean we lose our freedoms all in the name of terrorism, so there will be no violence

We are slowly losing our freedoms already, no need to fast forward and make it happen overnite

There is no perfect world sadly
No Utopia...no Unicorns so to speak

And yes, there are bad guys in this world
That's the reality


But to call FOX a terrorist organization because one person's views are out there, is hypocritical at best
People here lately toss that word around too easily and it has lost it's true meaning
Now it's been turned into an insult/slur against one who has opposing views or says something that another doesn't like

As long as MSM doesn't actually bomb/kill people, they're not terrorists
When an anchor says what JP did shows lack of sensitivity/respect, etc. but is clearly not in the same category as ISIS
BIG DIFFERENCE....just saying

Call her/FOX any other name but it isn't that 'T-word'
*sigh*



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:37 PM
link   

originally posted by: purplemer

I am all up for Free Speech but Free speech is something granted to people. Not puppet organisations that are nothing but spoke voices for corporations and banks.



???

Free Speech is not granted to any one or any thing - it is a RIGHT.

This also means that you, nor anyone else, gets to pick and choose who or what they "grant" free speech to.

Read the First Amendment again - it's not "granted" to anyone, it is guaranteed to... THE PRESS.




We do not need these outdated society dominate structures anymore. They are not causing us any good.... Give the voice back to the common man. The common man does not have a beef with peeps half across the world...

purp





Do not presume to tell me who I do or do not "have a beef" with. I am perfectly capable of determining that for myself...

... and can speak freely about it.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:47 PM
link   

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: whywhynot


So who gets to decide what free speech we "Need".


All up for free speech for people. I would not grant corporations and banks the same quarter however…


You were railing against Fox, who decides in your utopia Fox bad NBC< CBS, ABC good. Would that be you?


MSNBC decides




posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:48 PM
link   

originally posted by: purplemer

There is no them and us. There are not good people and bad people there is only us and the sooner we learn that lesson the better...



Spoken like a true collectivist, a member of a hive rather than a species! have you ordered your bland gray "same as everyone else" uniform yet?

You may associate yourself with anyone you like, but don't presume to include me in your "us", because there are people in the world who are decidedly NOT like me, and are no part of my "us". I know this for damned sure because I have met them, and been shot at buy them. I have seen, with my own eyes, the separated heads and bodies dumped at the doorsteps of family that were and are their calling cards.

Nossir, associate with whomever you want, but don't expect ME to, because there are people in this world so much NOT like me that I have but one solution for the problem they present.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:49 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer

I never thought I'd like some dimwit celebrity riding his luck to soapbox some dumb opinion...but I like this guy more and more.

Maybe I'll pin his poster on my wall later...



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:07 PM
link   

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: whywhynot


So who gets to decide what free speech we "Need".


All up for free speech for people. I would not grant corporations and banks the same quarter however…


You were railing against Fox, who decides in your utopia Fox bad NBC< CBS, ABC good. Would that be you?


MSNBC decides






Oh God....we're DOOMED!!!



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:43 PM
link   
Fox has become such a laughable joke at presenting any type of information, that I am actually aghast at how it continues to exist. A truly poor, inept, corrupt and down right ill thought version of 'news' which simply splurges out anything to benefit themselves and associates.

The idea they continue is laughable, the idea that they are perceived as some sort of authority is mind boggling.

For all of Brand's inconsistencies and blurred ideas, I see a man of hope and prosperity, who is genuinely trying to put forth ideals that will serve and better society. The recent protests he was involved in, only to be ignored and shunned by the BBC, is a glimpse into how valid and how powerful he message is bringing. I.E it is not beneficial to current establishments, so it is shunned.

That being said, Mr. Brand, still has a lot to answer for and some hypocritical issues and bizarre inconsistencies to iron out before I am to fully believe his benevolent and purposeful agenda.
edit on 25-6-2014 by The 5th because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:53 PM
link   
I tend to agree with Brand on most things, and in this case I do agree with his assessment of judge big balls. What I don't get is why all of a sudden he's taking aim at one particular corporate mouthpiece network instead of all of them like he usually does.

This just seems odd, maybe he's back on the smack.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:00 PM
link   

originally posted by: nenothtu

Spoken like a true collectivist, a member of a hive rather than a species! have you ordered your bland gray "same as everyone else" uniform yet?


So bees aren't a species anymore? Lol The force is strong with this one. I believe you've overdosed on Orwell.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:10 PM
link   

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: nenothtu

Spoken like a true collectivist, a member of a hive rather than a species! have you ordered your bland gray "same as everyone else" uniform yet?


So bees aren't a species anymore? Lol The force is strong with this one. I believe you've overdosed on Orwell.


Bees are members of their respective hives. Hives make war on one another with some regularity, believe it or not, so they don't behave as a species, but as a hive.

Same with ants.

Yep, the force IS strong with this one!

Orwell wasn't the only one to see it coming - there re innumerable dystopian books and movies which make the same clarion call, by many different authors and producers. They made that call because of what they could see around them, in various states of accomplishment. Whether or not you want to heed the warning signs is, of course, your own call, but they have been laid out for you in a digestible manner, so the decision is your own, and you will own the results of your own decisions, as will we all.



edit on 2014/6/25 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:21 PM
link   

originally posted by: nenothtu

Bees are members of their respective hives. Hives make war on one another with some regularity, believe it or not, so they don't behave as a species, but as a hive.

Same with ants.


True, but doesn't that totally contradict the original point you were trying to make? It seems you've got the roles reversed. The socialists want to break out of the hives and join the rest of the species whereas you just seem to want your old hive back.


edit on 25-6-2014 by Bone75 because: oops



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:29 PM
link   
a reply to: Bone75

Incorrect. Collectivists want to force the rest of the species into THEIR hive, so that all are the same and there is only an "us", only ONE hive - THEIRS. In order for all to be the same, all will have to... be the same. Capiche?

I, on the other hand, don't want my "old" hive back - I still have it. There is pretty much only 5 or 6 members there.

Not much of a hive, as hives go. We're pretty exclusive, and don't really want new hive members. we'd rather learn from the differences of all the other hives... but when there ARE no differences, and there ARE no other hives, learning comes to a grinding, screaming, screeching halt. If all are the same, then there is no further learning to be had, since all are the same. If we are all the same, you have nothing to teach me that I don't already know.... because we are all the same.

Absolute sameness is absolute stagnation.






edit on 2014/6/25 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:31 PM
link   

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Stirring up crap is FOX's specialty.


They definitely stir it up. They've got a lot of crap to stir, too. Honestly, at this point, you could probably just turn on C-SPAN, and save them the trouble of reporting all the crap that comes from the Obama administration and friends' mouths every time they open them. But I'm sure you probably don't have any idea of what I'm talking about. I'm just a conservative nut job who fabricates scandals that don't exist and keep pressing the issues that never happened, like the IRS targeting of conservatives. I just make issues out of nothing- like Obama breaking the law to release 5 terrorists for a deserter without congressional approval. Nothing to see here.


Fox News, you're stirring crap. I call it news reporting. Keep up the good work.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 09:37 PM
link   
a reply to: purplemer
Who was that crazy woman, and what kind of moron would take her seriously? Tell me she's a joke, please.







 
82
<< 1  2    4  5  6 >>

log in

join