BLM’s Response Will Force Texas To Pursue Other Options

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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:46 AM
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U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Director Neil Kornze responded to the April letters from Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott (R) and Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) about the Red River land dispute between the federal government and the State of Texas.

The letter comes approximately two months after the initial requests from Abbott and Cruz were submitted to the director and largely doubles down on broad claims of federal ownership.


Gen. Abbott told Breitbart Texas, "The BLM's recent letter fails to answer the questions that I and many Texans have about the BLM’s seeming land grab along the Red River. It is still unclear what area along the Red River the BLM is attempting to lay claim to, under what authority, and how the BLM intends to treat the Texans who have for generations considered the land private property. The BLM’s inadequate response will force Texas to pursue other options to obtain the needed information -- including litigation if needed."

BLM Doubles Down on Texas Land

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The treaty between Texas and the US Government forbids the federal government from owning ANY land in Texas without Texas' permission. Enough said.


Texas entry into the Union was under different circumstances than other States that entered after the original 13. Texas was a republic before their entry and the Federal Government owned none of the lands in the Republic before their entry. The only large NP in Texas, The Big Bend NP, started out as a State Park and was deeded to the Federal Government not grabbed by the Federal Government.

Any Texas land that is now considered part of Oklahoma Is part of Oklahoma and was never part of of the Oklahoma territory before it became a State. It was never under the control of the United States government. And the property rights of the Texas owner, transfers to his ownership in Oklahoma.

The Federal Government's argument should concern every State whose boundaries fluctuate because they are Rivers. Our federal government seems to be laying claim to all these border lands between States when the State line moves.


Push Texas hard enough and the Secession Party ranks will grow. There are a lot of people who really like that idea. BLM would find it impossible to take land from the sovereign country of Texas.


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OPINIONATED-OBSERVATION:

Anticipating a Fight. ... ( TEXAS-Sized )
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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: FarleyWayne


I live in Wichita Falls right down the road from the red river.

Texans arent going to give crap to the federal government, though it will be interesting to have a front row seat as they try.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:19 AM
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Looks like Cruz is showing how stupid he is again. This was settled decades ago and they could read the case files just as anyone else can. Also if the land belongs to anyone it belongs to the Native Americas not to Texas because during the lawsuit it was pointed out that America was acting as the trustee for the Native Americans.



Push Texas hard enough and the Secession Party ranks will grow. There are a lot of people who really like that idea. BLM would find it impossible to take land from the sovereign country of Texas.



Anticipating a Fight. ... ( TEXAS-Sized )

Texas couldn't even hold onto the Alamo so America has nothing to worry about. Besides if Texas did secede from America just look at how much money America would save over a billion alone in FEMA aid a year. Not to mention how funny it would be when the Mexicans in Texas gets a majority and votes to rejoin Mexico.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:53 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
Looks like Cruz is showing how stupid he is again. This was settled decades ago and they could read the case files just as anyone else can. Also if the land belongs to anyone it belongs to the Native Americas not to Texas because during the lawsuit it was pointed out that America was acting as the trustee for the Native Americans.



Push Texas hard enough and the Secession Party ranks will grow. There are a lot of people who really like that idea. BLM would find it impossible to take land from the sovereign country of Texas.



Anticipating a Fight. ... ( TEXAS-Sized )

Texas couldn't even hold onto the Alamo so America has nothing to worry about. Besides if Texas did secede from America just look at how much money America would save over a billion alone in FEMA aid a year. Not to mention how funny it would be when the Mexicans in Texas gets a majority and votes to rejoin Mexico.


You love the government dont you. Always the first to back Obama and now this crap.
Texas would be better off in charge of itself.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: buster2010




Texas couldn't even hold onto the Alamo so America has nothing to worry about. Besides if Texas did secede from America just look at how much money America would save over a billion alone in FEMA aid a year. Not to mention how funny it would be when the Mexicans in Texas gets a majority and votes to rejoin Mexico.


well considering that the Texans were out numbered by about 10 to 1, mexico 1800 troops and evently wound up with 2000, Texans 189 troops and volunteers, not to mention that the mexician army had more and better cannons, they held out for 13 days, and to managed to kill or wound 1/3 of the mexican troops, 600 if ircc, i think they did a pretty good job.

now there are many more people in texas, and i think they would and could put up a much better fight. don't mess with texas.

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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:22 AM
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originally posted by: nfflhome

originally posted by: buster2010
Looks like Cruz is showing how stupid he is again. This was settled decades ago and they could read the case files just as anyone else can. Also if the land belongs to anyone it belongs to the Native Americas not to Texas because during the lawsuit it was pointed out that America was acting as the trustee for the Native Americans.



Push Texas hard enough and the Secession Party ranks will grow. There are a lot of people who really like that idea. BLM would find it impossible to take land from the sovereign country of Texas.



Anticipating a Fight. ... ( TEXAS-Sized )

Texas couldn't even hold onto the Alamo so America has nothing to worry about. Besides if Texas did secede from America just look at how much money America would save over a billion alone in FEMA aid a year. Not to mention how funny it would be when the Mexicans in Texas gets a majority and votes to rejoin Mexico.


You love the government dont you. Always the first to back Obama and now this crap.
Texas would be better off in charge of itself.

Obama has nothing to do with this and it sounds like you know as much as the idiot that wrote the article. The Red River dispute was settled in a lawsuit decades ago and it proved that Texas doesn't own the land. Here is the lawsuit Oklahoma v. Texas - 256 U.S. 70 (1921) but don't let facts get in the way of yet another Obama hatefest.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: hounddoghowlie



don't mess with texas.

This wouldn't be the same Texas that is always crying for Obama to solve problems that their useless Governor can solve by himself?



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:29 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: nfflhome

originally posted by: buster2010
Looks like Cruz is showing how stupid he is again. This was settled decades ago and they could read the case files just as anyone else can. Also if the land belongs to anyone it belongs to the Native Americas not to Texas because during the lawsuit it was pointed out that America was acting as the trustee for the Native Americans.



Push Texas hard enough and the Secession Party ranks will grow. There are a lot of people who really like that idea. BLM would find it impossible to take land from the sovereign country of Texas.



Anticipating a Fight. ... ( TEXAS-Sized )

Texas couldn't even hold onto the Alamo so America has nothing to worry about. Besides if Texas did secede from America just look at how much money America would save over a billion alone in FEMA aid a year. Not to mention how funny it would be when the Mexicans in Texas gets a majority and votes to rejoin Mexico.


You love the government dont you. Always the first to back Obama and now this crap.
Texas would be better off in charge of itself.

Obama has nothing to do with this and it sounds like you know as much as the idiot that wrote the article. The Red River dispute was settled in a lawsuit decades ago and it proved that Texas doesn't own the land. Here is the lawsuit Oklahoma v. Texas - 256 U.S. 70 (1921) but don't let facts get in the way of yet another Obama hatefest.





Then it is a dispute between Oklahoma and Texas and can settle it their way.BLM can butt out.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:49 AM
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originally posted by: Sunwolf
Then it is a dispute between Oklahoma and Texas and can settle it their way.BLM can butt out.


That's the whole point..... Texas and Oklahoma already went at each other over this issue, it went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and a decision was handed down on April 11, 1921.

The problem is that idiots like Greg Abbot, Ted Cruz and their "stupid is as stupid does" following here in Texas are too ignorant to understand that this issue is settled law.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: hounddoghowlie



don't mess with texas.

This wouldn't be the same Texas that is always crying for Obama to solve problems that their useless Governor can solve by himself?


Buster if anyone is completely uninformed here it is you, the international border between the US and Mexico is the responsibility of your beloved federal government, it is on them to police it.

Texas is at present spending $1.3 million a week policing it, because your beloved federal government lawlessly refuses to do its job. It is against the law for the feds to not do this.

We all know you are in love with obama and all but really guy, every one of your posts in this thread are idiotic at best, I would get moderated if I told you the worst case.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 11:55 AM
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Just who are these Native Americans you mention? The fossil record has proven long ago, it's not the Indians!a reply to: buster2010





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