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originally posted by: deadeyedick
Do you think you will be loved by the rising of the last caliphate? Where ever you are do you feel that the danger of violence will rise in your area? Do you feel that after estiblished they will find peace?
Well i think that judging by many responses here on ats and the media to the stance the u.s. will take by non intervention that one side will swallow the other. There is no one like saddam to control things now and it looks like the side that has no problem with killing and taking over resources will rule the day. They may hate eachother but they hate us more.
originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: deadeyedick
give us the processes where the Sunni & Shia stop fighting each other to form this Caliphate...
those 2 parties/ sects are adamant on destroying both the Great Satan & the little Satan (the USA & Israel in that order)
and we can infer that the Caliph will be the one to make a 7 year Peace Treaty which starts the count-down clock for the return of the Mahdi/Messiah/12th Imam/AC-FP
you got any answers or speculations on that issue
originally posted by: FraternitasSaturni
What caliphate? Are you crazy? lol... Caliphate! lol... What do you think this is? The year 700s and this is umayyad caliphate reborn and ... DUDE... THIS IS... nevermind... lol
originally posted by: deadeyedick
Do you think you will be loved by the rising of the last caliphate?
Where ever you are do you feel that the danger of violence will rise in your area?
Do you feel that after established they will find peace?
originally posted by: Expat888
Could care less what they think or may feel about me. nope out here theyd get the boot from the locals same way that in past china has , france has .. the u.s has .. the locals wont submit to any outsiders .. and life will go on as it always has ..
originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere
1. RELIGION strictly for the purpose of CONQUEST makes a poor foundation.
2. Betrayal of those one had promised peace to--in the words of the Manual . . . is RETURNING EVIL FOR GOOD. The reaping of that is that Evil will never depart that house (Prov 17:13).
3. Betrayal and massacre of those one had promised peace and safety to means that one will be betrayed by one's own confidants and colleagues . . . probably in endless fractions, factions and fierce fighting. Which . . . is pretty consistent with the history concerned.
4. Islam, too will not escape the universal law of reaping what it has sown. Things may temporarily look different but the die is cast. Islam is stubborn, arrogant, tyrannical, hypocritical, inconsistent, fractured and hostile at the drop of a hat to virtually one and all. Doesn't make for a solid enduring foundation.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere Why would ksa usher in the caliph when they seem to be much in line with the u.s. and have some control here. The small group you speak of is growing very much and has obtained much resources. they have taken more lives than the number they started with. Who is gonna stop them. Do you see them just getting their fill of violence and turning around? Exactly how many muslims that support violence would have to be in the u.s. before you would start to fight them?
Approval by Iraqi Cabinet[edit]
On November 16, 2008, Iraq's Cabinet approved the agreement, which cited the end of 2009 for the pull out of U.S. troops from Iraqi cities, and 2011 as the fixed deadline for removal of U.S. military presence in country. U.S. concessions involved a ban on U.S. forces searching and raiding homes without Iraqi approval, the right of Iraqis to search shipments of weapons and packages entering the country for U.S. recipients, and the right of Iraq's justice system to prosecute American troops for serious crimes under some circumstances. The vote was passed by 27 of the 37-member cabinet, of which nine members were absent and one opposing. The agreement then went before Parliament.[26] However, on November 19 the Iraqi Parliament was adjourned for a day after lawmakers loyal to Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr shouted down the second reading of the agreement's text. Speaker Mahmoud al-Mashhadani adjourned the session after Sadrist MP Ahmed al-Massoudi aggressively approached a lawmaker from the ruling coalition, who was reading aloud the text of the agreement.[27]
originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: LightningStrikesHere
Coming from another Muslim... your the poor misguided one, not those who believe in a very serious threat that is taking out entire cities.
I - as a Muslim - know the danger because I don't listen to lies told by those who would call themselves scholars who try to downplay everything that IS a danger...
INSTEAD of downplaying very real dangers, we need to start saying this is how you tell extremist from moderate, this is dangerous and this is not, and work hand in hand to keep extremism at bay.
The ME is NOT like US.... there is a need for a strong leader to keep the extremists at bay so the people can taste some measure of freedom. Pretending it is like the US, or could ever work well like the US is wrong... and what got us into this mess in the first place!
They aren't growing because of tragedies, they are growing because we keep taking out the leaders who keep the extremists well in hand.