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Is there a conspiracy to downplay the threat of radical Islam?

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posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

The more I learn about Islam the more I am convinced that Mohammad knew what he was on about. There are too many things happening today which correlate to his prophecies and warnings. Some of the stuff is so spot on only a blind man or an idiot would deny it.




posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

I agree with you, but its does not mean i like him.

I think the book is just as corrupted as any other.
To many politcal agendas. Same as the Jews who await a new temple.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: AnuTyr

I wouldn't blame the book. I would blame the idiots who use the religion to push their own agenda and not the ambitions of the religion. And that goes for Christianity and Judaism also.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 06:12 PM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

sticking to the spiritual aspects, and leave all others behind.
Spiritual means having a moral compass as well, knowing that influence leaves a ripple effect in all things.
As action is kenetic in nature.



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posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: MyHappyDogShiner

Read the post above over 100 million extremist in the world. More then any standing army on earth.

That's 108 million people who believe that if you don't subscribe to their brand of Islam you should be dead.

That's not islamiphobia. That's a real problem



Do you have a list with the criteria for deciding they are extremist? I bet having anti-american/western views is one of them, but simply belonging to a country we invade is enough for people to hold those. The number could be inflated with a poorly thought out list.

That said, I'd be perfectly happy to wake up and see every religion with a jealous god vanished. Not the people, just the religion. Jealous gods make enemies while offering no uniquely good morals. We'd be better without them.

I think a good god should have more confidence. A good god has no reason to be jealous, he knows my desire to do good will lead me to his side. A good god doesn't put a gun to my head and threaten to shoot any misstep with bullets made of eternal hellfire.

I don't mind ideas like Buddhism, they teach the same thoughts for peace, but leave less room for violent "misinterpretations". Some holy books are so full of possible "Misinterpretations" they could pass as holy war field guides. I like the religions that encourage the abandonment of faith. Some tell you to question everything and listen to every view. Confidant religions are always less divisive. It's the insecure ones causing problems.
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posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: undo
case in point. here's an european atheist's view (he also hates christianity. one thing's for sure, islam's increased presence in europe is actually radicalizing people of every walk of life there. and a radical atheist is just as dangerous to one's longevity as a radical religionist. whats the quickest way to dechristianize europe? you guessed it).





Long slow round of applause...

Not a word to argue with in there. The usual banter when the "religion" topic comes up is highlight by some "member" of said faith who "claims" they are peaceful and not "extremist" and everyone holds said individuals up as an example... But no one actually get's into how "peaceful" idiocy affects everyone else's lives and traditions...

Because a bulk of the population "over reproducing" from moronic birth control ideas affects no one, a nation that veers away from science in general while we try and make a sustainable planet in the modern world... that is certainly not "harmful or extremist" right? The very nature of modern laws degraded by superstition has no effect on anyone...

I'm sorry, a basic belief in a higher power, a willingness to pray, a set of basic rules you yourself follow... Okay. But anything beyond that IS absolutely extremist, it's extremist because ANY INDIVIDUAL who believes "he knows the will of god" and should enforce such a thing is a lunatic, there s no freaking way anyone's individual interpretation of any set of words is sure to be accurate to the will with 100% assurance of an Omnipotent being. So even without ruling out the existence of said being of omnipotent heft acting like your capable of comprehending such a thing with absolutism is definitively a mental illness... it goes against the very basic and simple tenets of religion like "not taking the lords name in vain" which I assume precludes speaking for him or simple spiritual tenets like HUMILITY and YES that makes a person an extremist regardless of violent behavior.

The absolute nerve, in all reality to assume to make into law a personal interpretation of lines.... what assures any Jew that "working" on the Sabbath includes not shutting lights or driving a car or any Christian that Christ did not wed or any Muslim that he or she has the right to ACT in God's name as if given orders to do so with zero consideration that words might have changed over time or the interpretation could be completely off?

Surely if there is a God, assuming to act as his will is the greatest offense of all, no? Among the Dogmatic religious are the greatest sinners of all is my only conclusion


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 12:12 AM
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a reply to: mattsawaufo

That's just not true. To say Muslims are less than human is just flat out wrong for one. Im sure there are muslims out there who you would like more than your average guy, if you were to truly get to know them. Remember this topic is in regards to "extremists" in Islam, which is not the majority.
I would agree that historically speaking many Islamic nations didn't pose much of a threat with their military in comparison to the more technologically advanced, larger numbered armies of China, the United States, Russia etc...
But please don't see this threat as a light one. You need to keep in mind , that the likelihood of violent terrorists regimes growing in numbers, weapons, and support ( as messed up as that is) is growing higher by the day.
We have a nuclear armed Iran currently, who is said to be one of the largest supporters of terrorism on the planet. And keep in mind, their are superpowers who will deliberately fund these organizations and use them to their advantage.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 05:20 AM
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a reply to: criticalhit

well i've been researching my theory (that the european leaders deliberately invited radical islamic groups into their country on purpose, to not only cause a great deal of hate against islam, but to also rile up the other religious people in those countries such as christians and jews, so that together, the 3 abrahamic religions can be blamed for the decisions the governments themselves made, when the whole thing eventually erupts and innocent people on all sides, die.

as a result of my research, particularly into the subject of how this clash of cultures was effecting european views, i found the video you re-linked, as well as this one



and this one, which is not the same as the other one by this same guy. this one is specifically about sweden.



many of these places had socialist democracies that appear to be slowly morphing into an EU totalitarian super state. the results of these changes have caused many to come up with theories for why it is happening, from the simple "new world order" theory, to the belief that white people are being targeted for extinction and that islam is being imported in, to facilitate that. i do not think the latter is entirely accurate, although the former sounds perfectly valid.

rather than extinction of caucasians, i think it'd be closer to say, extinction of all abrahamic religions as a feature of the new world order. i'm sorry to say this, but muslims, christians and jews who remain there, are living on borrowed time. this thing has all the hallmarks of escalating to the point of suffering and misery, culminating in non-religious, pagans, agnostics, and other non-abrahamic religious people just getting fed up with abrahamic religion, which will end badly.

take a clue from history. get out of there before it melts down.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: Expat888

lol...

which side are you on, the sane one? Or the insane? You know the first sign of insanity is to believe yourself sane!

hahahahahaha



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 05:40 AM
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a reply to: undo

It's about power, its always been about power, maybe someday it wont be, but not today.

Everyone wants a piece of the power pie, and use whatever means at their disposal to get it. Religion is a great tool, and apparantly at the moment some people who have been working 40 years toward this goal, power over a nice slice of the middle east, feel they can get at it.

They have spent 40 years trying to convince the west they are wonderful sweet innocent things, while gaining converts and brainwashing young men at the same time to get a nice size army going at the same time. Committing just enough acts of terror in the west to scare westerners and keep the hatred fires burning.

Now their time is at hand, or so they believe.

OF COURSE the big boys with knowledge and experience are going to best use this to their advantage. They are going to milk this one for all its worth.

And all the while the brainwashed ignorant play their roles.
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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:03 AM
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a reply to: OpinionatedB

it smacks of genocide, of that there is no doubt, particularly since the largest percentage of christians and jews are white. but i think skin color is just an unfortunate side effect. the fulfillment of the desire of the government leaders in europe and the new world order organizers, requires a massive culling of white people BECAUSE they are christians and jews, this is why the "white people don't have a culture" and "white people are evil" mantras are propagating all over the planet. how else will they get people to go along with the idea in the face of what is sure to be a public outcry from christians and jews being slaughtered, who may not at first, tie it to their religion but instead to their skin color/race/culture.


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: undo

I think you lost me.... I really must have missed something because normally you make tons of sense. That one just went well over my head though.


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 06:32 AM
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originally posted by: OpinionatedB
a reply to: undo

I think you lost me.... I really must have missed something because normally you make tons of sense. That one just went well over my head though.



there's been a "white people are evil" mantra going around the world. at first, this sort of perplexed me because it was often other white people saying it, and usually in public arenas such as politically driven forums, popular music, news and talk shows. initially, this seemed to be coming almost exclusively from the democratic party in the usa -- not from black democrats but from white ones. so it was obviously not racially driven in the beginning.

what in the world would drive a person to disparage their own skin color to such a degree, i asked myself. and the answer finally came to me the other day as a result of trying to understand the events in europe, after pondering it for years:

the bulk of christians on the planet are white as are many of the jews and these two groups, along with islam, are slated to be wiped off the face of the planet by the new world order. and the machinery that is driving it is: governments deliberately causing culture clashes then blaming the religions and/or skin colors. in the usa, it's skin color. in europe, it's religion/cultural differences. but ultimately, in both cases, it's religion.

so what happens when white people start getting killed enmasse? they'll think it's racially based genocide, when in fact, it's genocide targeting abrahamic religions, 2 of which are predominantly white. the jews will think it's racial as well. it won't be racial. the race is just an unfortunate consequence of wiping out people of a particular belief system who are predominantly a particular race.


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:29 AM
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notice how both the lady and the man in the 2 videos i posted above, both say that the government is telling their indigenous people that they are worthless and cultureless (they are manipulating them emotionally in order to spur them on to return to their racial roots. notice how the female makes mention of the article that called their midsummer celebration "silly"). this degradation of the indigenous european people is a warning shot that 1) alot of europeans are going to die, 2) the reason will be because of religion and 3) it will be blamed on abrahamic religions, which is what the problem radical islam is presenting and the european governments are encouraging.

the european leaders and from what i can tell so far, the american leaders as well, are planning religion-based genocide of three different religions all stemming from the same source.


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:45 AM
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Islam is not just a religion...it is governments and a complete way of life including laws. It shouldn't be protected as a religion either much like Communism shouldn't be. The government and belief in how people should conduct their lives is wrapped in a religion to protect it. Why? Because you can't take down their government or way of life without attacking their religion and therefore...every Muslim will fight to protect it.

Yes...there is a conspiracy about Islam. It isn't just a religion. It is full control of human life. It is a concentration camp for everyone and death to those who fight it. Yes...the Crusades, but for the Muslims. Convert or die. Our government and others cry "freedom of religion" and I'm sure they realize it isn't just religion. And much like immigration, the plan is to invade and attack from within.

I've said this many times...I'm not religious. But I recognize an attack when I see it and the shroud wrapped around it to protect it. It is being used as the liberals use racism...a shield (if you don't like him it's because he is black) and point fingers yelling RACIST! A great plan actually this Islamic takeover. Watch the movie "Mars Attacks" while the aliens who are killing everyone are carrying a machine that keeps saying "We come in peace". Kinda like that.

The real question is...are you/we that dumb?



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:47 AM
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Oh yeah...want proof? Ask any soldier who has been over there for any length of time, what their opinion is of "Radical Muslims". Most, if not all, will tell you there are no "Radical Muslims". They are all the same...radical. Either by action or out of fear.
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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:48 AM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

The real question is...are you/we that dumb?


read my last four posts and watch the vids.
the european govs, deliberately invited radical islamists for the culture clash and all out civil wars that will ensue, then they will blame it on abrahamic religion. they are all being manipulated on a massive scale.
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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 07:52 AM
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a reply to: undo

Absolutely...there is a greater agenda. Our (current?) leaders will use any weapon they can...including Islam and religion to "own the world". Control and enslavement. Sorry..."protection and parenting".


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posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 08:32 AM
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weareawake

radical islam is driving it forward, but it wouldn't have to if the governments of europe were not deliberately setting that stage. then it will be blamed on muslims, christians and jews, when it finally does explode, resulting in some way over the top totalitarian genocide program, for the peace and safety of the world.

in effect, radical islam will have completed its goal of wiping out every infidel who actually believed in god, on the planet, including themselves. strangest twist of hari kari, ever.


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