Is there a conspiracy to downplay the threat of radical Islam?

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 01:19 AM
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Hey Guys, been quite some time since I've been on here. Looking forward to hearing back from you all. This question has been on my mind a lot lately. Does it seem like the world has become dare I say "too politically correct, and far to liberal when it comes to the threat of radical Islam swarming through the world right now.
I am deeply disturbed by what's happening in the world to date. You look at the slaughter that just ensued in Kenya, the rise of ISIS swooping through Iraq right now,you look at attempts by certain Muslims to implement Sharia Law here in Canada. You look at honor killings, the recent exchange of 5 terrorists for an American, ( something the United States has never said they would do ( negotiate with terrorists ) , full wide scale terrorism where you have young brainwashed boys get thrown into an embassy with bombs strapped to his body all the while being told he will get 70 virgins in Heaven from Allah.
We see, hear and some of us even experience these circumstances. Yet it seems like there is a full court press to not really read the Koran for ourselves and understand the origin of where so many Extremists develop their ideologies from ( * note I mention extremists* because I know there are countless amounts of Muslims out there, who do their best to live in peace with one another, are not violent and have the same basic human needs and desires as us all)*

It's scary when you read pasages like this in the koran

=chapter 8, verse 12: "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them."

chapter 9, verse 5: "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush…." ..


Here is a statement from an individual who used to be Muslim but has since left the faith, who grew up in Saudi Arabia and personally knew some of Osama Bin Ladens family members

"You cannot stand against the religion, you cannot critique the prophet or the teaching of the Koran, and you cannot leave the religion because you're not free to do so," Fadi said. "There is no equality between genders, there is no equality between people of other faiths."

"For you to leave Islam, you are leaving your identity, your culture, your community, your family, everything that you grew up to believe to be true," he said. "There is no separation between state and mosque, state and religion."

Fadi's family in Saudi Arabia eventually came to grips with his leaving Islam. One of his brothers, however, still threatens his life on a regular basis.

But he said the threats won't stop him from telling the truth about his former religion.


- So you have a family member ( your own brother) threaten your very life constantly simply because you stopped believing in his God. It's time for us to wake up and fully realize this is no religion of peace, but is in fact a very dangerous ideology that is set out to convert all to Islam or die..

I feel for the people who are raised in this, well meaning people who feel trapped and simply go along with Islam because it's deeply ingrained in their family, culture and political systems. I feel it's dangerous because the Koran has made it very clear than all non-muslims are expendable, I feel there is a strange agenda taking place where we are told to not get bent out of shape when Muslims attempt to invoke special rights in North America. Whether they like it or not, America and Canada were founded on Judeo - Christian principles.

I feel like all religions are held in the same light by most the general public, and most mistakenly believe that Religions are all dangerous. If you truly look at the stats- they're pretty foretelling.

All over the globe you hear of so much violence taking place at the hands of extremist islamist groups that go into countries and bomb churches, burn all non -muslims alive and violently and ruthlessly go on killing sprees. Yet these events always seem to be downplayed. It's almost as if everyone is too afraid to maybe acknowledge that there is a strong correlation to the commands unique only to the Koran that actually enable such behaviors.
Yet we live in a society now, where it seems like you can never speak out a word against anything wrong that Islam is doing or it will end up on channel 5 news, and there will be public outrage. It's so odd, but it almost feels like the stage is being set...

My question for you guys is - is their a conspiracy to silence most who speak out against islam, or filter it... Did the West fund terorrism in Syria, and are they behind some of the funding to the current ISIS terrorist network i in your opinions?

Look forward to hearing back from you all
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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: freedom7
I feel like all religions are held in the same light by most the general public, and most mistakenly believe that Religions are all dangerous.

There is very good reason for this being so...

Religion does exactly the opposite of what it is supposed to do and ALWAYS lies.

This fact tells us that God is clearly NOT the one behind it.

The entire NWO agenda revolves around removing God by creating mass hatred through false religion.

The elite created religion as a Mind Control tool with a hidden agenda that revolves around permanently separating us from God.


"The real Muslim Brotherhood is not the fanatical sheikh with his equally fanatical following, nor is it even the top mullahs and ayatollahs who lead entire movements of such madmen; Khomeini, Qaddafi, General Zia are exquisitely fashioned puppets.

The real Muslim Brothers are those whose hands are never dirtied with the business of killing and burning. They are the secretive bankers and financiers who stand behind the curtain, the members of the old Arab, Turkish, or Persian families whose genealogy places them in the oligarchical elite.....and the Muslim Brotherhood is money. "

Muslim Brotherhood- Illuminati Tools

"The Muslim Brotherhood has acted as a clever technique to recruit agent-provocateurs for the Illuminati. The lowest ranks may sincerely believe they are defending Islam, and confronting "Western imperialism". However, these various terrorist groups, through representing different factions, are part of a single network serving the same Illuminati cause." www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Exposing the Links Between Communism, The Illuminati, and Islamic Terrorism

Terrorism and the Illuminati -- A Three Thousand Year History


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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:28 AM
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I watched this earlier and thought I would share on this thread .You be the judge .



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:34 AM
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Here in the UK the 'downplay' is masked as 'multiculturalism' and anything said contrary to that been called 'racism', regardless of logic.

Whether or not this has come about since WWII who knows, however it seems to have been sneaked into the nation's consciousness within the last 20 years.

Here is a typical example, from BBC last week. The guy expressing dissatisfaction at unsustainable immigration and the demise of British culture wasn't allowed to even finish a sentence. The Muslim column writer for the Daily Mail, clearly stated her hatred for the ''entire white working class'' which went unchallenged though when Liddle tried explaining his dislike of aspects of Islam he was slated for ''dismissing an entire religion''.

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 03:31 AM
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Funny .. still waiting for people to realise they face a larger threat from neocons and fundamentalist christians .. the threat they pose gets overlooked alot more than the threat of extremist muslims ..

Meh let both sides butcher each other theyre all bloody mental ... maybe then those of us who are sane wont have to put up with the stupidity of religous fanatics ..



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 03:51 AM
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a reply to: freedom7

Your quotes from the Qu'ran are somewhat different to what is in my Qu'ran. And with that, using snippets from the Qu'ran is useless.


But when the forbidden Months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer (surround) them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).


This is obviously a military tactic, not a all clear to slaughter everyone who is an unbeliever. For this to occur one must wage war with the Muslim in their land.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 04:08 AM
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a reply to: freedom7

There is a conspiracy in a sense. The movement of people from the 2nd and 3rd world into the first world is not accident and nor is it spontaneous.

The idea is to make every first world country a nation of bitas, bits of this and bits of that. This is designed to break down nationalistic identify, create division among the masses and erode that nations peoples desire to defend the country, seek political and economic change, to resist such change etc.

Agenda 21 seeks to even out the differences between rich and poor countries and mass migration from other countries into the first world nations is designed reduce the standards of living and possibly even the population.

In the 1990's I read in a newspaper that 1 Indian from India consumes 167 tons of raw materials in one year and 1 American consumes 350 tons of raw materials in 1 year so you can see what the objective is - sustainability.

The only country that refuses to allow the various forms of asylum seekers is Japan and look what happened to them a couple of years ago.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 04:13 AM
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a reply to: freedom7

my friend, you should not read excerpts from Holy Books given to you, try to do it yourself.

you might be surprised if your intentions are good and you want to learn the truth.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 04:42 AM
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With regards the OP, with the risk of repeating myself, you are falling for western govt engineered divide and conquer. Some young Muslims certainly do fight, be it for their religion, to see their country ruled by the faction that they support, because their family and friends were killed by western forces or because they are just plain mad in the head.
However, is this worse than the armies of the US or UK? They are simply tricked by politics and patriotism into throwing their lives away for the planning and economics of plain capital gain. Is that not more sick? It sure worries me a lot more that my country-folk are naive enough to trust generals with their lives when the motivation for the war is so plain to see.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

C'mon, Ron Liddle is allowed to speak plenty in that (channel 4, not BBC) clip. Trouble is both he and Yasmin Alibhai Brown are self promoting egos who make their grubby living from editorials in the mainstream media. The often quite openly bigoted Liddle is hardly slated, more gently challenged which he easily brushes off. Ms Alibhai Brown is very much a part of the establishment too - she writes for the Daily Mail ffs and has more to do with moaning self-entitled middle class centre left politics (whilst being paid to make the frothing at the mouth DM seem less fascistic/xenophobic) than representing the views of moderate Islam, let alone the Islam of the Near or Middle East. They are both gatekeepers and the clip is just a pointless performance from two rutting media whores.

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 04:46 AM
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How many of you actually know a radical Muslim? I know a good many Muslims...for a small town guy. Twenty, or so. None of them are radical. In fact, they're anything but.

Downplaying? Who knows. Certainly none of us herein. Overplaying? It can safely be said that some do, indeed, overplay it.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:07 AM
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I see 3 options

1) Kill them all.

2) Hope they change.

3) Become Muslim.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: seagull

Those that are radical Muslim's tend to not advertise it.

Look at the London bombers and those from Cardiff that are currently part of ISIS and on the jihad recruitment video. Their families, friends, colleagues etc didn't know they were radical extremists but they were.

An ex colleague of mine was a radical Muslim and he often said things directed at me and women generally that are contrary to our laws of equality.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:11 AM
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a reply to: theabsolutetruth

You may, or may not, be right. don't know, and don't claim to.

If they aren't advertising extremism, how does anyone know they are?



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: skalla

Alibai brown said she ''hates all white working class people'', Liddle said he ''disliked aspects of Islam'' though the ''interviewer'' clearly berated Liddle and accused him of ''dismissing an entire religion'' despite the fact he neither said nor implied it, and sided towards brown who clearly was offensive and declaring hatred for an entire sector of white people.

Could you imagine if a white person said they hated ''all brown/ black working class people'', there would have been headlines about it the next day and all sorts.

It is blatant hypocrisy.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: seagull

They knew the bombers were because they bombed places.

We know those from Cardiff are because they are seen in the ISIS jihad recruitment video, they even say their names and their families recognised them.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: freedom7

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

BY DELIBERATE AND PREMEDITATED PLAN AND DESIGN . . . literally from hell.

The oligarchy loves blood-letting; chaos, mayhem, cruelty, depopulation . . .

The oligarchy loves factions and interest groups at each other's throats.

The oligarchy loves violent Islam as a major tool toward their ultimate goal of one world government and one world satan worshiping religion.

It may be that they have set Islam up to destroy all the other religions and then will make some relatively minor adjustments in Islam to turn it into an overtly satan worshiping religion.

Regardless, they have certainly mandated minimum to no MSM coverage of the atrocities. They certainly ignore the solidly researched statistics from Muslim nations which have determined/discovered that 20% to 70% {depending on country} of Muslims worldwide support violent Muslim conquest and Sharia law destroying all other religions and systems.

And, of course, the current Destroyer-in-Chief in D.C. has lied about his own violent Muslim inclinations and only lets them leak out as when he releases 5 horrific violent terrorists to regain a single "American" Muslim stooge (of the oligarchy?). What a travesty. What traitorousness. What hypocrisy.

Actually, one could logically say from long observance that the MSM has been ORDERED TO SUPPORT VIOLENT ISLAM by suppressing stories about it; ignoring it as much as possible; lying about the percentages of Muslims involved . . . etc.

Perhaps some of the people ordering such treason will be among the first to feel the blade on their necks. That would sure be "reaping what they've sown" fitting consequences.

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:02 AM
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a reply to: theabsolutetruth

YAB is a goggle eyed moron for sure, but if you examine the vid (approx 5.30 onwards is the relevant section), she very clearly does not say that she "hates all white working class people" to quote you.
Rather she idiotically associates an arson attack on her home by some white working class youths with the whole cross section (with whom she has done some "good deeds" and publicly advocated for to give her some due credit which admittedly sticks in my throat) and states that it is difficult to love such people.
This is some levels milder than many here (and in the west as a whole) who lump all muslims in with suicide bombing (etc) muslim extremists and put their misplaced feelings in far stronger terms.

The interviewer, a regular on c4 news always lets folk off the hook with the greatest of ease, as is her defined role.

It's all just MSM smoke and mirrors, just c4 dresses it up a little better than bbc and itv.

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: Expat888

What unmitigated nonsense.

Where in the New Testment are Christians exhorted to exterminate all other religionists?

Where in the world are Christians burning other religionists alive?

Where in the world are Christians ROUTINELY beheading other religionists?

Where in the world are Christians ROUTINELY AND VIOLENTLY PREVENTING other religionists existing at all in their country?

Where in the world are Christians ROUTINELY vowing to exterminate all other religionists off the planet.

Your child-rearing/growing up is showing.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:14 AM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

Or one could simply stop buying into the carp that is being pushed by our governments and media, stop interfering in the affairs of other nations whom we have been destabilising for decades (as well as in many cases having defined their borders for maximum inter faction aggravation) and just get on with our lives whilst they do the same.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:16 AM
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a reply to: demus

Reading it in context does not help soften the realities.

These are NOT a few isolated verses abrogated by the whole. They are integral to the whole text. They are indicative of a mind-set and stance inherent WHEN POLITICLALLY AND MILITARILY WORKABLE . . . since the founder's demonstrations of how to live out those verses.





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