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US Militia Fighting in Nogales, AZ and Laredo TX...no MSM coverage

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posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:48 PM
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a reply to: g146541

So the CIA does it?




posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:56 PM
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Well I asked around work today and nobodies heard anything about gunfights. Trust me they would know and they would tell me.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 05:59 PM
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Mexicans are not a race, Americans are not a race, Africans,again are not a race. Why do people constantly refer to nationalities as races. Hey if you don't like Africans, Mexicans, Canadians, fine but how does that make you a racist?



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

(you said)
"I am curious....how would anyone propose that the average Mexican citizen make their country a better place? They are a disarmed people, with the only guns being in the hands of the military and the cartel (the latter of which are using guns that We The People provided to them)."

What is sad, funny and scary all at once about this statement is that we are one EO away from the same thing. No wonder anyone with money has left for South America or Europe in numbers in the last 20 years.


edit on 06pm30pmfu2014-06-23T18:21:03-05:000603 by matafuchs because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: canthinkerous

I always laugh a bit inside one someone says they are half jewish...




posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: Fargoth
I am pretty sure it was that alphabet agency.
I looked for the article to no avail, googled every combination of the words and no luck...
The nanotech was a low level radiation that could be tracked even after use, but no article no story..
Just disregard, if I can't show proof for my words, I call me a liar.
If anyone does look up and find the article plz post it, if interested at all.
This crop alone was 60 to 70 percent of the cartels cash crop at one point.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: canthinkerous
Mexicans are not a race, Americans are not a race, Africans,again are not a race. Why do people constantly refer to nationalities as races. Hey if you don't like Africans, Mexicans, Canadians, fine but how does that make you a racist?

Same can be said for jews, that is a religion.
Unless my Mom is of the Baptist race that is.
But this is off topic, unless we mention the cartels and refugees seem to be "racing" for the border...



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 11:38 PM
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originally posted by: Kratos40
a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I'm trying to get more info. But for the last ten years or more, anyone who has a property or is staying in the area of Pena Blanca Lake to Patagonia Lake need to be armed and secure their homes.
I was going to buy property out there, but it's not worth it.



South of Green Valley. My kids' grandfather always has a sidearm if he is more than 50 yards away from his house. They also have a very large, unfriendly, trained german shepherd. The dog does not like anyone except him and his wife. That is another thing I worry about with a couple small kids.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad

It was a war. We owe them nothing.

And to a poster above who basically says that America is for all immigrants; This was back then when the country was being founded, not now. As soon as the basic outline was made, we put rules or laws in place, and many fought and died for it. America is not a free-for-all like some liberals make it out to be. Immigration has a process, though broken, it's still a process that needs to be followed. You cannot come here, not speak the language, break laws, then demand things. It's not the right way to do things.

I'm not responsible for what the CIA does. I'm not responsible for what the presidents have done and the American people shouldn't have some 'fake guilt' put on their backs. It isn't right. Be a man. Create your own thing instead of going around blaming all your problems on everyone else. Granting amnesty to illegal criminals is taking all the Americans -who fought and died for what we have, in vein.

The world knows how our corrupted liberal system works and they're playing it like a fiddle in the moonlight.

Our military needs to be brought home and put on all of our borders. The borders are of national security. I do agree that many countries need to come together and build some business' in Mexico so that people can support themselves and their families. The UN should enter Mexico and go after the cartels. The Mexican government isn't doing their job to keep it's citizens safe so it's time for a regime change there.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: Fylgje

If you are not responsible for the government you vote, and that you fund, who is?

The UN cannot go after the cartels. We fund both the UN and the Cartels. I mean, i guess we would if we wanted to make money off of both sides. And I am sure that will happen eventually. The Mexican government is doing what we tell them to do. "We" meaning you and I, via our votes and our tax dollars.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Fylgje

Oh and when did America complete that basic outline? Did we reach the quota of the immigrants allowed?
That statue may be old the message it sends is timeless. That is the point of it, kinda like don't forget where you can me from.
America is the land of the free, regardless of what our government is trying to do. And it is a conservative and liberal corruption and until you can see that you have front row tickets to the duet that plays in the moonlight.
And please stop with pepole fought and died for what we have today appeal to emotion. It is nothing more the that as America's values or way of life have never, ever been under attack by anyone but the government.
This is not the first time amnesty had even been offered. ... so if that was the case then it had been in vein for almost a decade.

We are the one's that destroyed that economy, why would any other country feel the need to clean up our mess? We wouldn't even let another country become a primary supporter of their economy so nothing go to happen until we the people force our government to take action for the problem they allow to happen.



posted on Jun, 24 2014 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: Fylgje
I'm from the second poorest state in th U.S., International paper closed its local paper producing plant, and did ship all the machinery to mexico, which effectively killed progress in our community, since it killed over 1,000 jobs locally. Since we lost this industry locally, yearly household earnings have dropped, gangs and thugs have taken over, the former minority population now is over 75% of the total population locally and most are on welfare or food stamps, and why do we care about mexico again ? they are already taking our industries, maybe I should just sneak across the border, and get my old job back at $1.00 an hour pay, cause mexicans work cheep. I wasn't ranting at your post, I meant to reply to the thread.

edit on 24-6-2014 by chopperswolf because: hit the wrong reply button.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Hey BFFT! How goes it?

Odd you should mention them as "refugees", because that is apparently the status being given to the recent influx of unaccompanied children. They are being herded to "refugee resettlement centers". Oddly, however, these kids are in the vast majority NOT Mexican - they are from Central America, predominantly El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala.

I have a soft spot in my heart, or maybe my head, for that area, having once been a refugee into Honduras (out of Nicaragua), and not getting killed for it. Years ago there was major turmoil in that area, and I reckon it's just never ended, only the players have changed. To be honest, it was that evil CIA that hauled me out of Tegucigalpa and back into the US (although the guy who did the magic of producing paperwork out of thin air never admitted to being CIA, probably for a variety of reasons). Anyhow, the Hondurans were, for the most part, nothing but nice and hospitable. They helped me out, so I've got no problems returning the favor.

I have ties to the Hispanic community to this day, and a soft spot for them. Most don't know why, nor do they need to. We just get along, and that's enough. I was talking to a girl from El Salvador yesterday, and mentioned the refugee kids, and asked her why they are all of the sudden flooding in. At first, she said it's because "they're poor", and I laughed and said they've ALWAYS been poor, so what's changed? She finally said "It's getting BAD", to which I responded it's ALWAYS been bad ( I know the area, and I believe she's for one has figured out why, but she rarely brings it up), and at last she said "Marasalva Trucha", which explained a lot to me. It has apparently gotten so bad in her village that her grandmother... let that sink in, her GRANDMOTHER... can't even safely cross the street.

Evidently the gangs and cartels are taking over the ENTIRE area, not just Mexico, and are networking. I've got reports some time back from the part of Nicaragua I was in (Bonanza/La Rosita area) that there are roving gangs of looters and generally miscreant highwaymen around, making even the trails in the jungle dangerous for the average Joe (or Jose). They said the highwaymen were leftovers from the wars, which isn't unusual - look at the history of the US immediately post Civil War, and you'll find the same thing. War brings out a class of men who know nothing else when it's over, and so employ the only trade they've ever learned. Even I fell into that trap for several years after my wars, making a living carrying a gun, but as an armed guard rather than as a robber.

Some times, the badge is the only real difference.

Anyhow, she has 3 cousins that are coming up to get away from it. Two are eligible for paperwork, one is not. I plan on doing what I can to fix that paperwork problem, returning a favor done me long ago, by a stranger. Once upon a time, I thought I could fix the whole world. I got beat down pretty good, and figured out that I can't. What I CAN do is help out fixing one life at a time.

It ain't much, but we do what we can. Better to bring them here and settle them in than to go back down there and fight that goddamned dragon on it's own turf again.

Kudos to the militia on the border - keep having at it, and stop that dragon from getting here... because when it sets up camp HERE, there ain't going to be anywhere else to run to.





edit on 2014/6/25 by nenothtu because: spelling



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 10:43 AM
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MS-13 has become the defacto contractor for the Sinaloa Cartel, particularly in Chicago.

Easy to spot an MS-13 member....facial tattoo's. They aren't the only ones using them. But if you see a young latin guy with facial tattoo's, know that they are either in MS-13, or in a gang very similar.

Most of what we deal with around here is something called "The West Texas Syndicate". Just a bunch of peons for the much larger group, which I presume is Sinaloa and not Zeta.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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I have a soft spot in my heart, or maybe my head, for that area, having once been a refugee into Honduras (out of Nicaragua), and not getting killed for it. Years ago there was major turmoil in that area, and I reckon it's just never ended, only the players have changed.


I might debate how much the players have changed. You have kept up to know who the current President of Nicaragua is, right? (sigh) All that was done. All that was risked, lost and changed......again, was for nothing.

It's like a bad flashback with a much worse hand this time. At least in some ways. It really is the same physical people, playing round 2 with different leadership on our side.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: ParanoidAmerican
a reply to: Sremmos80

Non-uniformed will be the first shot....? In war officers are targeted most often.


This is a "new" kind of war that is actually as old as mankind. It's been dubbed things like "4th generation warfare", because people have forgotten the uncivilized aspects of war that have always been in their efforts to civilize what is essentially a very uncivil thing.

The kind of war we had in the 18th, 19th, and 20th centuries is not the kind of war that has been the human norm for the rest of history and prehistory.

When soldiers fight "not soldiers", it should be expected that "not soldiers" become targets.

This is not your grandpa's kind of war any more. It's more like your great-great-great-great so-many-greats-back grandpa's kind of warfare. "Civilization" will have to adjust or die. Just ask an ancient Roman how that goes when the barbarians are at the gates... no, wait, you can't, because ancient Rome is no more, for that very reason.

They didn't adjust.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 11:05 AM
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originally posted by: Wrabbit2000
a reply to: nenothtu


I might debate how much the players have changed. You have kept up to know who the current President of Nicaragua is, right? (sigh) All that was done. All that was risked, lost and changed......again, was for nothing.



Actually, I do. Ortega ran the joint for years until he ran it nearly into the ground, and they got rid of him... and now he's back, like a bad penny. It kind of turns my stomach. I wonder if they'll EVER learn! It's like me having to take an ass-kicking all over again, but now there is nowhere else to run, and the barbarians are at the gates.

You're right, it was all for nothing, and a lot of good folks died on both sides and a lot who were on NEITHER side, for nothing. Sometimes it amazes me that I ever managed to quit drinking.

You know, I know a fella that was there after my time - his time was during the Contra Wars - who actually had Ortega in the crosshairs at a rally and couldn't get the go order to X him out. One little word could have changed so much... maybe.




It's like a bad flashback with a much worse hand this time. At least in some ways. It really is the same physical people, playing round 2 with different leadership on our side.



I'm afraid I have to differ with you here in one small respect - IMO, this go round we have NO leadership on our side! We are on auto-pilot, and spiraling downward. last time it was Reagan vs. the "leftists", this time it's the "leftists" vs the cartels, who have embraced what passes for capitalism these days like it was a brother.

But yes, in many cases it's the same physical people, just trying a new angle to seize power for themselves.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

la Eme has a strong presence on the East Coast as well. There have been incidents there involving MS-13 and machetes that didn't go well for the victims. The Powers that Be try to sweep all that under the rug, but it's hard to do when it involves disjointed body parts - they leave lumps in the rug when swept under it.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80

If 9 people are already dead then I hope that is enough for them to pull back and stop.


No that is enough reason to close the border, gas the illegals and go to war.



posted on Jun, 25 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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MS-13 has thus far been content to keep their messages half way private I think. Meant within the community they are killing people from, not the general public. They do the public thing down south, but so far, not here.

I hope we don't see that change with the massive influx of total unknowns flowing in from the very bases of the hard hard core of MS-13 and others.

We always seem to trade up on threats. We pretty well devastated the New York "Families" and the FBI spent years patting themselves on the back. Now instead of 5 groups, the actions led to 50 in their place. Some success...

We started with the Mexican Cartels who worked the familial relations that straddle the border (and always have) as much as anything else. That was bad..but even the Cartels weren't as wholesale and just casual about brutality as the Central American gangs. Probably because those are born of the very fusion of revolutionary warfare and criminal enterprise in ways we've never experienced here. Even Mexico has no history of that within the last 100 or so years, anyway.




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