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US Militia Fighting in Nogales, AZ and Laredo TX...no MSM coverage

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posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:04 PM
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a reply to: ParanoidAmerican

Cause that is how they work... Out of those 3, the militia would be the easiest target that would have a lot harder time hitting back.
And the proof is in the pudding if this is real, 9 dead already? Have you ever heard of 9 agents dieing in one day from attacks?
edit on ndSun, 22 Jun 2014 23:05:13 -0500America/Chicago620141380 by Sremmos80 because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I have been intending to write a thread on this....but the cartels are anything but in their death throes.

This isn't getting MSM coverage, as most of the stuff there doesn't, because of our involvement in every way. There is the CIA and their mangement of the global drug trade. Or, as it is more germane to Mexico specifically, Fast and Furious providing guns to the Sinaloa Cartel.

They are the ones that keep leaving beheaded bodies on the border of Texas. None of those Cartel folks are particularly nice. But among a sea of bastards, we have created a true monster.

This is why i say that we don't have an illegal immigration problem. We have a refugee problem. And we, as Americans, damned well owe it to the people of Mexico to provide them safe harbor from the hell we have created.


Well spoken.


Mexican cartels would literally leave the U.S. militia & National Guard vomiting in there fatigues over the sh!t that they do. Beheadings & evey other types of torture thats absolutely unimaginable.


Good luck Texas - don't look toward the U.S. govt/military to help you out that much.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

I disagree. Minute Men are nothing more than a militia as well, depending on the militia group I would say some have superior fire power as well (look for Oregon Militia videos). BP would probably never receive that many casualties as the work in small groups 2-3 man teams working in a larger squad. The pudding has no proof, up to nine dead...who are they where were they was it in one attack was it a botched raid on their part, we don't know if any of that is true yet.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: matafuchs

I was wondering why there was no militia activity yet. I guess it was just not reported. I hope they stay safe..



BuckeyeTexan wrote:

“Local militia leaders have not ordered anything - a stand down or otherwise. That’s the whole point. This call-to-action is from a rogue group.

It is premature to head down there until Texas DPS is in place,has eyes-on,and can provide an assessment. Local Texas Militia leaders (at least in my area) want to be asset to DPS not a hindrance. Having a bunch of disorganized yahoos running around will get good people killed.

A coordinated effort is in the works.”

Many thanks for this info; since “eternal vigilance is the price of liberty “, we should watch and wait for things to be in place.

Also, here’s what ray76 posted on the other thread, about the militia

www.freerepublic.com...

Governor Perry can call forth the state military forces and the reserve militia to repel the invasion. Tex. Gov. Code Sec. 431.071 www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...

Tex. Gov. Code Sec. 431.001 www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...

Tex. Const. art. 4,§ 7 www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us...

SOURCE: FreeRepublic.com

AND

Letter to: "Texas Department of Public Safety"

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OPINION: "call-to-action is from a rogue group".
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edit on 23-6-2014 by FarleyWayne because: Added: Letter to: "Texas Department of Public Safety"



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: Kratos40

Please do. My kids are supposed to be spending a couple weeks with their grandparents 15 miles north of Nogales. I was never comfortable with it before, but now I am especially concerned. They have already had groups of illegals wandering onto their property asking for agua.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:47 PM
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a reply to: g146541

yeah, but you still have the white powdery stuff and opiates being funneled through and out of Afghanistan with the help of DEA/ATF and other agencies.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: ParanoidAmerican

None of them out gun the national guard or the border patrol. I am sure they have some guns, no doubt.
But the border patrol has far more resources available to them, they do not out dollar the DHS or the national guard.
I would be hesitant to say they are out trained cause some of them are no doubt former/current military and former law enforcement so I am sure they have some.
If they really were trying to make man wall, they there would be no doubt that 9 are dead, probably more. That is just ridiculous, that is daring them to do something about it and the cartels will.
Something the national guard or BP most likely would never do.
And your right, this might not be true,I said that as well.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit

I'm trying to get more info. But for the last ten years or more, anyone who has a property or is staying in the area of Pena Blanca Lake to Patagonia Lake need to be armed and secure their homes.
I was going to buy property out there, but it's not worth it.



posted on Jun, 22 2014 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Boarder Patrol and the National Guard both have undergone drastic budget cuts and personnel shortages. I think it more likely these militia would get themselves into trouble being to aggressive than a cartel actually attacking them. Cartels don't want boarder violence to spill over because that will force the hand of the Fed Gov. these guys are not dumb, they are as smart or smarter that fortune 500 company CEO's



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 12:01 AM
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these guys are not dumb, they are as smart or smarter that fortune 500 company CEO's

100% agree.Who do you think are their business partners?
If there is 9 or more dead,still big if at this point, IMO that means there was a coordinated attack. And before they do that on a federal agency, they will find a softer target, a civilian militia acting outside of US government approval. It even gives the mexico gov an easier time selling their side of the story. Hard to frame the BP, much easier to frame a civilian outfit.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: Fargoth
a reply to: g146541

I live in south AZ so it's pretty much the same situation. Why would an illegal substance contain nanotechnology? (that is what I assume you are talking about)

But I don't want to derail the thread I apologize

I don't think this would derail the thread as it involves the roots of the cartel and their wealth/power structure.
There is nanotech sprayed on cartel crops by the inventors of the cartel, this allows for identification and tracking even after use apparently.
I will try to find the article.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 11:16 AM
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Everytime we here about a militia doing something it turns out to be somebody siiting at home making crap up. Lets face these militia members are not exactly Americas best or brightest. They would much rather sit at home and complain or open carry in a Starbucks than do anything of use.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

We don't owe nobody nothing.....except for China. Calling illegal invaders "refugees" is very troubling. We fought for what we got. They have a country and need to fight for theirs. Why should we give them ours???


I'd like to see many militias at the border. I'd like to see many militias in D.C. and every state capitol. Militias are the only hope for civilians. Time for communities to come together and this is the way.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 11:35 AM
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I found a pretty decent article that explains what's going on down there.



Residents of a small Mexican border town under siege by at least one of the country’s most notorious drug cartels are fleeing into a tiny Texas community, which is on high alert and preparing for a surge of illegal immigrants should a street battle break out with another cartel – or if gunmen begin carrying out a threat to start killing the town’s children.




“We just got word that the cartel has threatened to kill children in schools across the border unless parents paid $5000 pesos,” said Mike Doyle, chief deputy sheriff of Hudspeth County. And that time might come sooner than later. Schools Superintendent Jose Franco said word has spread that everyone in the Mexican town must stay indoors while members of rival cartels prepare for a shootout.




A former law enforcement officer who lives in Fort Hancock and asked not to be named said the siege of El Porvenir is important because the town straddles one of the oldest, least defended smuggling routes on the Mexican border.


Sounds like the cartels are ramping things up quite a bit. They have basically given an ultimatum to the Mexican boarder town that they can "either leave or pay with blood". So the issue doesn't seem to be on our side of the fence yet but it seems that they have their sights set on this particular smuggling route and based on their track record they don't tend to just give up and go back on their threats. I hope this gets picked up in the media and as many people as possible know what's going on down there.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan




This is why i say that we don't have an illegal immigration problem. We have a refugee problem. And we, as Americans, damned well owe it to the people of Mexico to provide them safe harbor from the hell we have created.


People need to understand exactly this and it goes way beyond Mexico.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

We don't owe nobody nothing.....except for China. Calling illegal invaders "refugees" is very troubling. We fought for what we got. They have a country and need to fight for theirs. Why should we give them ours???


The government you keep supporting with your tax dollars, your votes, and your silence has ruined their country. Did you click any links in my post? They were there to guide you through my reasoning.

We basically sent our bully uncle over to their house to crap in it. So now they are knocking at your door wanting you to make it right.



I'd like to see many militias at the border. I'd like to see many militias in D.C. and every state capitol. Militias are the only hope for civilians. Time for communities to come together and this is the way.



The point just flew by, and you missed it. If you read my post, and the links therein, please feel free to expand on how you, as a US taxpayer and voter, are not culpable for the cess pool those people are running from. So desperate, they will even pin a note to their child and send them off with a hope and a dream (and nothing more).

I live down here on the border, right on the edge of the war between Sinaloa and Zeta. It isn't like I don't have some experience with the situation. Or that I haven't looked dead in the eye of a terrified people, terrorized at the barrel of a gun that our government provided for just that purpose.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:10 PM
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Nothing "flew by" me. I've heard it all before. There is no reasoning for an illegal invasion, much less amnesty. I have close family who lives in Texas, I've been there many, many times so I also know first hand what illegal immigration does and is doing. The fed's sit by and bound the hands of local authorities because they want them to come here all because of votes and more sheep to add. They don't care about the children. If they did, they would go after the cartels, they would force the Mexican gov to go after the cartels.

It's not Americas problem. It is Mexico's problem. Our borders shall not be crossed illegally. It is a crime no matter who it is or what their reasoning is. Could you imagine if Americans or anyone else were invading Mexico at the levels that they do? Could you imagine if Israel were being invaded by Iranians or anyone else at these levels?

They march up and down the streets screaming and demanding. They create a lot of crime. It will eventually cause a civil war. The forefathers are rolling in their graves.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Nothing "flew by" me. I've heard it all before. There is no reasoning for an illegal invasion, much less amnesty. I have close family who lives in Texas, I've been there many, many times so I also know first hand what illegal immigration does and is doing. The fed's sit by and bound the hands of local authorities because they want them to come here all because of votes and more sheep to add. They don't care about the children. If they did, they would go after the cartels, they would force the Mexican gov to go after the cartels.

It's not Americas problem. It is Mexico's problem. Our borders shall not be crossed illegally. It is a crime no matter who it is or what their reasoning is. Could you imagine if Americans or anyone else were invading Mexico at the levels that they do? Could you imagine if Israel were being invaded by Iranians or anyone else at these levels?

They march up and down the streets screaming and demanding. They create a lot of crime. It will eventually cause a civil war. The forefathers are rolling in their graves.



If you think this is about votes, then the point, indeed, did fly by you.

This is about controlling the drug trade, on a global scale. The flavor in Mexico is called "Sinaloa". Of course, since they screwed up on the Fast and Furious deal, we may be on the outs with them. But they are the most powerful cartel because of our 3 letter agencies.

This was done in your name. Now, you may not care about all that. However, since I DO live near the border in Texas, I will continue with my viewpoint and taking action to promote my viewpoint.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Ah... the voice of reason. It comes in many forms here on ATS and changes daily.
However today the form it takes is that of a Big Fat Furry Texan. I agree with your statement and your pov on this paticular matter. Well said.



posted on Jun, 23 2014 @ 02:22 PM
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You're entitled to your view point no matter how wrong or illegal it is. I know about the CIA and DEA working with cartels. Again, that's not American taxpayers problems and they aren't responsible for it. Marching through American towns illegally and everything else that goes on is wrong. We fought for our freedom. They didn't!! They don't deserve what is ours and we shouldn't be handing it to them.

You obviously got a horse in this race. I don't. I see it for what it is; Illegal invasion by people who couldn't care less about americans. You understand how racist a lot of these people are?? I do. I've witnessed it many times. They do not like you. They want to take everything you have. I'm not saying that all of them are like that but many are and it cannot be ignored. Amnesty = civil war



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