Possible answer to lost IRS emails.

As a guy who has done a little IT work, why not just go to whitehouse.gov servers and do a search for any email with @IRS.gov extension? This would save some serious bickering, keep No Such Agency (NSA) secrets out of it and see if their is a massive, non existent, non redundant, network access storage failure there as well. After all the emails all have a recipient and the White House is a good place to start looking. How many of us have searched our emails looking for a person or organization? I would volunteer to do the search via VPN, but I want to live past tomorrow.

Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

You would think that they would be all over this.

I call their absence suspicious.

Even if they can't find them, they should be able to tell us when and who deleted the things.

P

reply to: MarlinGrace

You really have to think that it's just a ploy to keep pressure off. It's been used before in the hopes of shutting people up. Stage one of defense. Probably why they do it, it's because people have short memories. Accidents happen when people make waves.

originally posted by: pheonix358
Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

You would think that they would be all over this.

I call their absence suspicious.

Even if they can't find them, they should be able to tell us when and who deleted the things.

P

There are many that think anon is government sponsored. But it kind of makes you wonder how anything digital in todays world could come up missing. The FBI is supposed to have the best forensics for this kind of thing but we both know that won't happen.

originally posted by: dfens
reply to: MarlinGrace

You really have to think that it's just a ploy to keep pressure off. It's been used before in the hopes of shutting people up. Stage one of defense. Probably why they do it, it's because people have short memories. Accidents happen when people make waves.

I think this is more of a trial balloon to see how much support it gets. So far the MSM is strangely very absent.

Simple

Audit the design of the mail system.

If there were backups and copies now gone then arrest some people.
If it is such that there isn't any, which sounds against law, arrests and vendors get fired and possibly sued for faulty work, etc.

They are just keeping with the tradition of government workers often being overpaid, lazy and often not very intelligent workers.

Of course we know it won't happen.

originally posted by: pheonix358
Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

You would think that they would be all over this.

I call their absence suspicious.

Even if they can't find them, they should be able to tell us when and who deleted the things.

P

SABU...google it, this is where anon went.

He broke their back, while acting like he was their spine.

Pathetic honestly, I hope he suffers for years before death, with something very bad.

He made a few mistakes, and then entrapped many others, even going as far as to talk them into doing things they were later arrested for, even though they didnt want to.

You know, he did the standard FBI MO, talk someone into doing somthing wrong, that they didnt want to do, then throw the book at them for it.

It was all a giant lump of BS.

originally posted by: oblvion

originally posted by: pheonix358
Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

You would think that they would be all over this.

I call their absence suspicious.

Even if they can't find them, they should be able to tell us when and who deleted the things.

P

SABU...google it, this is where anon went.

He broke their back, while acting like he was their spine.

Pathetic honestly, I hope he suffers for years before death, with something very bad.

He made a few mistakes, and then entrapped many others, even going as far as to talk them into doing things they were later arrested for, even though they didnt want to.

You know, he did the standard FBI MO, talk someone into doing somthing wrong, that they didnt want to do, then throw the book at them for it.

It was all a giant lump of BS.

You are so very correct about the FBI MO they have significant history of this. My first experience or recollection of this would be Ruby Ridge. Set the person up, get them to do your dirty work, then when you refuse they prosecute. Their MO reaches worldwide.

I did IT work for the gov, just the county. I was supposed to come up with a retention policy so they were covered in a lawsuit or foil. I said storage is so cheap, just save everything forever and you know you are covered. Easy.

Boy, they didn't like that. They REALLY want to delete stuff as soon as legally possible. I could no longer work there in good conscience. If the workings of COUNTY gov need to be hidden from the people, then we have a problem.

And this ain't the only problem, I could go on and on.......

originally posted by: supamang
I did IT work for the gov, just the county. I was supposed to come up with a retention policy so they were covered in a lawsuit or foil. I said storage is so cheap, just save everything forever and you know you are covered. Easy.

Boy, they didn't like that. They REALLY want to delete stuff as soon as legally possible. I could no longer work there in good conscience. If the workings of COUNTY gov need to be hidden from the people, then we have a problem.

And this ain't the only problem, I could go on and on.......

It's nice to hear someone still has a conscious, and you also know that LL hard drive has nothing to do with the missing emails. If they were windows servers outlook archive emails are stored locally, the server in your profile directory, and some sort of network access storage. The public is too savvy to let this go unnoticed.

a reply to: MarlinGrace

The IRS emails are not lost. They are sitting on a back up server at Sonasoft, a company the IRS has a contract with for that purpose.

This is the thread about Sonasoft, it's going viral in the last 24 hrs on FB, and was for the first time mentioned on FOX by a lawyer late last night.

Thread started by ATS member Redhawk
The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sonasoft does this for the IRS.

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The IRS emails are not lost...the IRS is counting on We the People to accept their LIES, while We the People get crap from the IRS if we complain about anything. IRS =Gestapo these days.

Des

I would guess MS exchange, but who knows. They are probably using some system chosen specifically for it's propensity to lose whatever they want when the need arises. I bet they have email servers sectioned off in a 1998 time warp ( sort of how you change the date to keep the trial running) , so they can go back in time and delete whatever they want.

I am running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 in a VM on an XP box. Since 1997. And I have ALL my emails.

I setup a compliance system at another employer. It just forwarded EVERY email, no matter what, to another email server that nobody used. It was just a tap on the MTA service, so EVERYTHING was duplicated.

It's not hard at all. This situation is by design.

originally posted by: supamang
I would guess MS exchange, but who knows. They are probably using some system chosen specifically for it's propensity to lose whatever they want when the need arises. I bet they have email servers sectioned off in a 1998 time warp ( sort of how you change the date to keep the trial running) , so they can go back in time and delete whatever they want.

I am running Exchange 5.5 on NT 4.0 in a VM on an XP box. Since 1997. And I have ALL my emails.

I setup a compliance system at another employer. It just forwarded EVERY email, no matter what, to another email server that nobody used. It was just a tap on the MTA service, so EVERYTHING was duplicated.

It's not hard at all. This situation is by design.

Clever setup, on old systems. But if it works who cares. Anyone with the slightest clue knows it's BS.

a reply to: MarlinGrace

Nice find Des, I have too much experience managing windows servers with exchange and NAS storage. I know it's all BS as my post have claimed. It will be great to see what the result of this new information brings forward. They need to hang for this. Hopefully these guys will bring this forward and disregard their chances of losing the business.

originally posted by: MarlinGrace
a reply to: MarlinGrace

Nice find Des, I have too much experience managing windows servers with exchange and NAS storage. I know it's all BS as my post have claimed. It will be great to see what the result of this new information brings forward. They need to hang for this. Hopefully these guys will bring this forward and disregard their chances of losing the business.

Even though it's Sunday...Fox News is all over this and Sonasoft like white on rice. They said social media has gone viral with everything about Sonasoft and the contract the IRS had with them...even the fact that the IRS cancelled their long term contract with Sonasoft 3 weeks after Lerner was told to provide all her emails by the investigation. Fox analysts think Sonasoft will be called to answer a few questions LOL.

I stayed up late last night forwarding every bit of info I could find about Sonasoft/IRS connection to every media outlet I could...plus facebooking all of it too. A lot of my FB friends did a lot of sharing...the IRS doesn't control FB...and twitter....thank God!

I hope the IRS is finally starting to see We the People don't buy their crap lies. We know how to figure things out all by ourselves.

Des

a reply to: Destinyone

The better educated the public is the less they can deceive us, you are so right. We must stay informed. I better turn on fox I am missing it with work, and construction around the house toady. Thanks

a reply to: pheonix358

Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

You would think that they would be all over this.

I call their absence suspicious.

Good point. Maybe they're all democrats? *gasp*

a reply to: Destinyone

Nvm

a reply to: pheonix358

Where are all the Legions of Anonymous when you need them.

They never existed...it's just more propaganda to gain control over the internet. Haven't you guys caught on yet...they create problems then come up with a solution and the solution always robs you of your rights.

a reply to: Destinyone

I stayed up late last night forwarding every bit of info I could find about Sonasoft/IRS connection to every media outlet I could...plus facebooking all of it too. A lot of my FB friends did a lot of sharing...the IRS doesn't control FB...and twitter....thank God!

Ah HA !!

So THAT was you !!

good work