Which ideological mindset would you suggest in case of a rebulding after an apocalypse?

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posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 04:43 AM
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originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Metallicus

How about a main society of socialism/communism for basic necessities and priorities (meaning a focus on creating enough food, clothing, water, and shelter for every citizen), though the ultimate goal is for every human born to have access to education and then work to make a respectable human living, to attempt to eliminate the circumstances of a new citizen not being educated or skillful for any employment. And then pure capitalism for everything else. Then a mixture of stuff that is common now, like law and law enforcement. And then also if anyone wants they can leave this society to live outside its territory in an anarchistic fashion, because its hard to 'progress' under anarchy, and by 'progress' I mean turn ourselves into robots and genetically engineer dragons and make cool space ships and stuff.


don't forget the $25 min wage.

1,000,000 people is alot to herd together after something like that.

wouldn't they be all scattered across the planet?

i think finding food and shelter would be first on the to-do list.

take an inventory and scav for stuff.
maybe inventory of people skills also, butcher, baker, candlestick maker, doctor, lawyer, indian chief etc.
lawyers get a days ration of food and water and pointed north.

who would need cops or an army at this point? or even a government. yet.

i sure as hell wouldn't want no one that can't pull their weight and just want to boss.

there would be a lot of helpless too, elderly, children, handicapped, etc.
people would break into groups and probably live by consensus. eventually joining others.

unless they forgot what got them to this point, they might have a chance to have a better future.




posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 06:10 AM
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don't forget the $25 min wage.
When Moses was leading Jews out Egypt he did not implement that point so they rebelled.



1,000,000 people is alot to herd together after something like that.

wouldn't they be all scattered across the planet?


"People are dispersed on area not much bigger than Ireland (let's say 10 people/km2)"


i think finding food and shelter would be first on the to-do list.

take an inventory and scav for stuff.
maybe inventory of people skills also, butcher, baker, candlestick maker, doctor, lawyer, indian chief etc.
lawyers get a days ration of food and water and pointed north.

who would need cops or an army at this point? or even a government. yet.

i sure as hell wouldn't want no one that can't pull their weight and just want to boss.

there would be a lot of helpless too, elderly, children, handicapped, etc.
people would break into groups and probably live by consensus. eventually joining others.

unless they forgot what got them to this point, they might have a chance to have a better future.
Understood. And when there would be later a calmer situation (ex. after harvest) thinking about which political system you would advice?



posted on Jun, 21 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.



posted on Jun, 26 2014 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: Jobeycool
Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.


What do you mean by Judeo-Christian values? (In theory - I know 10 Commandments and so on. Thou shall not steal or Thou shall not murder sounds generally uncontroversial regardless of religious faith. In practice - it can mean anything from infrequent lip service to religious values to a theocracy.)



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 02:21 AM
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 02:37 AM
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a reply to: Shadow1024

What if we keep everything the same (minus a lot of ridiculous laws) but put an absolute limit on the amount of wealth one person can accumulate?

I have no idea what I'm talking about, just an idea....


Peace
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posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 04:04 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: Shadow1024

What if we keep everything the same (minus a lot of ridiculous laws) but put an absolute limit on the amount of wealth one person can accumulate?

I have no idea what I'm talking about, just an idea....


Peace
You know, your login implies that there are presumably more things that you disagree with.
And would change, given a chance.

How to implement such law? Property tax of 100% above some threshold?



posted on Jul, 13 2014 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: Jobeycool
Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.


No thanks .. thats whats got the world into the mess its in now.



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Expat888

originally posted by: Jobeycool
Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.


No thanks .. thats whats got the world into the mess its in now.
What do you mean? (I would see such point after the end of 30 years war, but not in secular West nowadays)



posted on Jul, 15 2014 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: Jobeycool
Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.


This is some of the most beautiful sarcasm I have ever seen on ATS......it is sarcasm isn't it?



posted on Jul, 16 2014 @ 08:11 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Jobeycool
Anyone in their right mind would want judea-christian values.It all ready works and leads the world better than anyone else.


This is some of the most beautiful sarcasm I have ever seen on ATS......it is sarcasm isn't it?


Don't think so.

I personally find puzzling that religion is being treated as either source of all problems or a solution to all problems, while comparing my fatherland with nearby, ethnically very similar country of different level of religiosity I barely see a difference.





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