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originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: Phage
It doesn't trouble me but it does puzzle me. It puzzles me why you and others cling to such an inconsequential thing so strongly. Who the hell cares? Why?
I felt it was self-explanatory, but perhaps not to all perspectives. It was bizarre to discover something that I not only remembered vividly but was a part of my childhood. I was not only shocked and confused, but annoyed. In my first post I believe I said I wasn't sure to be angry or sad. In a way, it's like how Lucas changed the "Star Wars" films I loved as a child. That really bothered me. Lucas and Spielberg were once involved in fighting to protect original film versions, as classic B&W films were being 'colorized' and this upset fans of art, some of which probably inspired them to become filmmakers themselves. I'm not sure if the "Berenstein Bears" had a role in my becoming a writer, but they were a touching part of my childhood, which I would certainly share with my own kids if I ever had any.
And of course, it's bizarre. I see it, others do, but others don't, and the current reality supports the change. The other changes are disturbing as well. It shows that reality isn't as stable as I liked to think. It was quite a shock, and now I'm looking for explanations, or at least seeing others who are in the same boat. It's like a question without an answer, and I can't just say, "Ah, whatever," and forget about it. I have a curious nature and I am drawn to it. I will not agree to being wrong when I know I'm right (about my memories,) on general principal, and I'm just too passionate about the truth.
I am suggesting that your memories may not be accurate and seeing as how there are others who remember it quite differently. It does puzzle me how you can be so adamant in your refusal to consider that your memories may not be accurate. I wonder why you are so vested in not considering the probability of this being the case.
When you learn that what you vividly remember no longer jives with everyone, and more than that, documented facts, of course this shakes you and you question yourself on some level. Part of me almost considered I'd gone crazy, but that didn't go far because I knew people who remembered it the way I did. I asked a cab driver what he remembered and he said: "-stein." When asked how sure he was, he said, "Pretty sure." When I told him it was now "-stain" and always was, he said he must have gotten it wrong (and the mind can play tricks, you know about that.) When I asked my sister about the famous "mirror" song, she remembered it the same as me, and when asked how sure, she said very sure and had a storybook version of it at home with that spelling. She laughed at the idea that I was saying it was different. When I showed her the vid with the different wording she replied that they must have changed it. When I explained the Internet shows it's always been spelled this way, she waited a moment (evidently reevaluating her position on the subject) and responded casually that she must have gotten it wrong.
Of course such a reply makes you question if you are being stubborn, holding to a memory because, for whatever reason, you refuse to be wrong about it. But I am very honest with myself and I still knew that the spelling had changed. It seems that many people are easily convinced that their memories are flawed; it would seem a logical deduction and I cannot disagree with it. But for some of us, we simply remember too clearly to just push it aside. In all honesty, it would be lying to myself, which I will not do.
I've always stood up for what I believed in and knew to be true. Usually I can make a strong case with evidence, good points, and I suppose I love a good debate. But this topic has no chance at a debate. I guess it's like discussing a ghost you saw with others who saw it, in front of people who never saw it and think we're crazy or deluded. This is different though, because it is more bizarre (everyone's heard of ghosts, but a shift in reality which changes the wordings of things and positions of physical locations? That's new to the public (myself included.) There are witnesses, but their testimony is easily disproved by the facts. This however does not dissuade me from speaking the truth. I will not lie to myself and pretend it doesn't matter to me when it does. I also really enjoy hearing others speak on it, to know I'm not alone in this.
I can tell you, never would I have imagined having this conversation!
In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so."
The reason a lot of ATS members won't let this go is this can feed psychosis. It isn't healthy. I feel I am doing you a service by reminding you how foolish you sound.