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originally posted by: amazing
Well stated thread op. I politely disagree with you on the basis that scientists are studying this and are taking into account all of the natural cycles going back as far as they can see. In some cases that is millions and billions of years or 100s of thousands of years, taking into account everything they can find since the earth was formed billions of years ago all they way up through the ice records and fossil records and sediment layers. All the sciences go into this from physics to astrophysics, to astronomy to geology...everything.
They then take this total view of everything and can see that man is having an effect outside of any of the natural cycles they have observed. They also take into account volcanic activity etc.
If there were only a handful of scientists, lets say a few hundred and only at certain universities, I may be more skeptical but it's thousands of reports, research articles and mountains of data and thousands of scientists and dozens if not hundreds of scientific organizations.
Global warming is happening. well we know that global temp records don't lie..they earth is warming, there is no debate on that.....man made global warming is happening. a theory like gravity but still pretty strong...almost as strong as the theory of gravity and you guys believe in that theory, yes? You can't cherry pick science, right?
Plenty of debate about what we can do, but we're, again pretty sure that we can have a big effect on mitigating some of this man made global warming and pollution. 2nd to that we have rising sea levels, drought and refugee situations that need to be addressed as well.
So still a big issue with lots of work left to do, what we can't do however is put our heads in the sand and pretend that there isn't a problem. We also can't let ourselves we brainwashed by propaganda.
Take a look at all of those reports..those thousands ...then read interviews with all of those climate scientists and really every scientist and see what they are really saying.
originally posted by: CB328
I don't supposed any of you geniuses have noticed the massive increase in destructive and record setting weather in the last ten years? Species changing their ranges, flowers and plants are blooming weeks earlier in some places than they did a century or two ago.
Just the amount of concrete we've laid is enough to change the climate by itself (it soaks up sun releases heat at night), when you add all the deforestation, pollution, and heat from every motor and device on the planet it's moronic to think we have no effect.
originally posted by: xuenchen
There's not enough CO2 being "manufactured" to make any difference.
Complete ignorant conjecture that statement is. We have elevated the CO2 levels from 280ppm to 400pm as a direct result of our addiction to burning fossil fuels.
This is a scientific FACT. Welcome to reality. We can do better.