Just because you ride on a flying gastank didnt mean you know anything about LO , and based on your statement you dont even knew anything about
radar and LO shaping. and why would F-22 going for refueling go in front of the tanker aircraft anway ? and if you are a boom operator your place is
in the tail end and you are not qualified to read the radar upfront. But assuming you are telling the truth, what kind of radar (other than weather
radar) would a tanker carry up-front ?
Please dont start pretending to be something you are not capable of proving.. there's already so many internet warriors / internet Marines that it
outnumber the real serving military men from all the world's military lol
oh boy here we go....
For this little exercise I'm going to assume you know a little bit about air refueling. Now taking off out of Edwards, where we did the F-22 training
back in the early 2000s was a bit different that normal flights. We would take off, go to where the fighters were, and circle over them until they got
thirsty. They would be behind us, to the sides of us, IN FRONT OF US, wherever their training wanted them to go. So yes I have seen just about every
single aircraft in our inventory from the rear as well as the front. And that's not all....
In air refueling we have something called a point parallel rendezvous. Here's what it looks like:
This is the most common air refueling "meet up" we have. We also have whats called an Overtaking Point Parallel rendezvous. That's when either the
receiver gets to the air refueling track before the tanker or the receiver is flying faster than they should be. The result is the receiver being IN
FRONT of the tanker, instead of behind. Well basically the procedures for this are: the tanker speeds up, and the receiver slows down. Eventually they
end up behind us and start their climb up to our position. So, yes, I've seen the rear of aircraft several times in my years of flying.
As for the radar it has, like I said its not the best out there and certainly not what the other fighters are using nowadays, but if you want the
exact model then its the Collins WXR-700X forward looking predictive radar with integrated flight management system with built in Traffic Alert and
Collision Avoidance System (TCAS) and an enhanced ground proximity warning system (EGPWS). Again its mostly for weather, but we were able to pick up
the B-2s going in and out of radar with it before, and had F-22's right in front of us that never even showed up on it. It would pick up and track
every other commercial airliner in pretty big radius for avoidance purposes.
And yes, being a boom operator, we were trained on how to use and read the radar along with all the other systems in the cockpit. When we lost the
navigator to PACER CRAG, the boom operator basically became the flight engineer, third officer, whatever you wanna call it. If the pilots got too busy
up there, we had our own flight management screens and computers and we could fly the autopilot from our seat behind them if we wanted to. Our place
in the jet is not in the back of the aircraft. Our place in the jet is from the shoulders of the two pilots to the rear of the aircraft and everything
in between. That's what we trained to do. We were even trained to land the jet in case of an emergency.
And last but not least, I don't have to prove who I am to anyone because most of the people who hang out in the aviation forums here know who I am.
But I'll give you a little backround...
I'm a Flight Check Evaluator, Combat Flight Instructor Boom and Instructor Test Boom. I have over 2500 hours flying on KC-135s and KC-10s, with over
1000 hours of that in over 200 combat flights over Iraq and Afghanistan. I was one of a handful of boom operators at Edwards to do the initial air
refueling tests and support for the YF-22, YF-23, F-22A, and X-35 (didn't get to refuel the X-32). I've refueled aircraft that are still not in the
publics eye to this day. People on this website have seen pics of them. Because of having to refuel stealth aircraft still in test phase, I've had to
attend many classified meetings in which the LO characteristics of the receivers were discussed in detail. On the F-22A I even had input on
redesigning the air refueling receptacle door to keep the LO stealth and minimize vibration of the door during air refueling. I may not know a lot
about stealth and LO features, but I sure as hell know more than the average non-military person out there.
But pictures are worth a thousand words right?
Here's a few I took....