posted on Jan, 29 2017 @ 10:32 PM
I was really saddened to read about Mike Herdman death. I live in Ventura County and only heard about this story a couple days ago somehow. So I’m
coming in way late to the comments. It’s a really interesting story as so many things don’t even begin to pass “bull # meter”. There is
definitely some missing links to the story here. I totally agree with GreenMtnBoys theory on what happened !!! In fact, I wrote this article/post
elsewhere and it was so close to GreenMtnBoys theory, I copied it here for anyone to read.
I was wondering if Byars ever had to do a drug test ? I am totally baffled because it sounds like they didn’t test Byars. It sounds like they
didn’t question him on #, they just believed his story ? Why ? Even if cops didn’t fully believe his story, or they knew the truth, I think
there is good reason that authorities would cover up certain things and close a case simply to not drag the departments into the mudd and ruin the
legacy of one of their own. BUT….the Exctasy thing, that’s what was the big flag for me !!!! I really would have liked to know if they both had
planned on "partying" with X together on his trip ? Was that even asked of Byar ? Did they intend on doing the drug together ? Or was it in Mikes
system from a couple days before… maybe partying with his wife a couple days previously? Here is my take on why Ecstasy may more easily explain
What I believe to be most likely….. and let me first talk to you from experience.
My background…..I've done ecstasy before. Granted it was 20 ago, but i did it probably 10 times. That drug was called the "love drug" by many. It
really was, it was a drug that just took every bad feeling anywhere in your body, and replaced it with nothing but one giant incredible feeling that
made LIFE AWESOME !!! You just felt great, VERY HAPPY and VERY SEXUAL, not a worry in the world, LIFE IS AMAZING and it is literally the best feeling
I’ve ever had in my whole life. I did it with my ex wife every time. I wouldn't have wanted to have done it alone with my male buddies because of
a very simple fact. When your on ecstasy you want to "touch" and "feel" and sexual contact is a major craving on that drug. We did it a raves and
danced a lot but we always wanted to go somewhere why we were still high to have sex. The best sex I’ve ever had I might ad!!! It was 20 years ago
and I still remember how awesome sex was on that drug. You felt so connected to the other person it was unreal ! I was casually dating this lady at
the time, didn’t have any long term plans to be with her at all. After doing this drug with her several times, something happened and we were very
connected after those ecstasy occurrences. I moved back to my home area where she was and we were together (later married) for the next 20 years.
So why do I tell you this personal background you ask ?
Why a heterosexual man would want to be in total isolation with another heterosexual man doesn't add up at all. If I was a heterosexual man and did
ecstasy, I would have wanted to be somewhere like a dance club or a rave with the primary goal being to hook up with a woman !!! If two men decided
to go camping way far away in the mountains all alone together with the intent on doing ecstasy together, where no one could possibly witness
The only thing that makes sense to me here is that guys were gay !!!!
Think about it, if a guy was leading a double life as either bi sexual or just someone who was gay-curious and I wanted to have an encounter....I
definitely would want to be high, preferably on A drug like ecstasy (to use as an excuse if one had regrets), and if it was something I was
embarrassed about and didn't want any other person in the world having the chance of walking in on me experimenting with some gay act....it would be
in a very secluded place with no chance in hell anyone would ever be able to witness me. Think about it, if you were leaning that way, you see your
fellow firefighter buddy in the showers all the time, you’re together constantly for a couple days at a time at the station....A couple hints are
dropped, and then a 1 on 1 trip is planned with two guys in the middle of no where. The firestation is the perfect petri dish for a gay relationship
to form until at some point they wanted to try this experiment out in the lab (so to speak). Maybe it wasn’t their first encounter, maybe they had a
history together, the bottom line is it sounds like it was a very hidden little secret. Unless the ecstasy was just in Mike'S system (not
byars-which we will never know) perhaps mike took it with his wife a couple days prior? That’s possible. But that's an easy enough tell... would the
wife ever admit to doing ecstasy with her husband if she wanted to find out the true death of her husband ? Maybe ? It would also be interesting to
know if she ever suspected that Mike had any gay tendencies ? Or if she thought there was anything weird about his relationship with Byar? Women’s
intuition is really something amazing. OR maybe she did suspect her man was gay and hiding a big secret. But He’s dead now and maybe she wanted
everyone, his family, friends, the department to remember him as a good man who simply had an unfortunate accident. A much more decent legacy than a
gay man that did drugs and went on some camping trip to have a gay encounter that ended very strangely and terribly.
With all the questions left unsolved in this story, I think the obvious has been looked over by authorities, or maybe they knew what happened and just
told a different tale altogether. I think it was a lovers getaway personally. The last place a heterosexual male would want to be is solely with one
other man, secluded in the wilderness, and on a drug that makes you ridiculously horny!!! There is just so many other possibilities once you accept
the gay factor. Maybe one of them threatened to spill the beans and come out about their gay relationship ? Tell Mikes wife ? Other fireman ? The
department ? Maybe a fight ensued, Maybe Byar killed Mike ???? Maybe for Mike it was just an experiment and for Byar he wanted more ? Or maybe Mike
refused him sexually and it angered Byar? Maybe Byar slipped a bunch of Ecstasy in Mike’s drink hoping to have his way with Mike ? Maybe Mike
flipped out and simply went for a walk and got lost, but was really being trailed by a sober Byar ? Then in a rage he beat him with a blunt force
This theory could easily be disproven. Did Mike’s lady ever know Mike to do ecstasy before ? Had they done it together previously ? Recently ? IF
so, then this theory might be bunk. As the investigation ended, nothing was clear, or simply not reported to the press and kept inside by the fire
and police dept. Why suffer all that embarrassment if it could be avoided ? Why wasn’t Byar interrogated fiercly ? I mean seriously why does an
experienced outdoorsman just run off into the woods barefoot at night after a dog ? The whole thing stinks and I wish there was a way the real story
could be known. Just because they were fireman the authorities quickly decided no foul play ? One has to wonder, If Byar is married now, what a great
cover eh ? I'd like to be a P.I. and tail him for a couple weeks and see if he finds his way to some gay bars? At the end of the day.... gay, not
gay, drugs, no drugs, someone died that shouldn't have, and for that I feel terrible to all that loved him and called him friend.