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posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:20 PM
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The Collapsing Obama Doctrine

By DICK CHENEY And LIZ CHENEY

That is all.




posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: St Udio




but were compelled to 'do nothing' by the Saudi Monarchy (or suffer the immediate death of the Petro-Dollar)


I don't think so.

I think it has to do more with his personal views about US power.

Like :

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.nytimes.com...

The naivete of this guy is dangerous, and is the current problem.
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posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
The Collapsing Obama Doctrine

By DICK CHENEY And LIZ CHENEY

That is all.


Nice rebuttal care to expand on why that is 'all'.

Of course there was more content in that op than just Dick and Liz Cheney.



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Ive posted the you tube video where Obama admits he is a muslim straight from the horses mouth,nothing has gone off the rails the Caliphate is on its way.



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: St Udio
a reply to: 727Sky


what I see revealed in your post is that the USA is no longer the 'big dog' on the porch...

sure the USA Intel likely watched in real-time as the Jihadists did their latest Death March to Baghdad
but were compelled to 'do nothing' by the Saudi Monarchy (or suffer the immediate death of the Petro-Dollar)


You could be right ... I certainly do not have inside info.. Another thing we all might consider is the grand plan for one united Arab conglomerate... Egypt was supposed to be the foundation for the united front way back when.. Well, even though they tried a couple of times, they failed.

Saudi with all their money was the next logical choice because they can buy an army and with their religious doctrine stir the whole region into a fundamental cesspool of fanaticism...

IRAN, Syria, and even Israel better think twice before they crawl into bed and finance some outside power. As someone else said the enemy of my enemy is still your enemy at some future point; we will see just how true that may be..

With our borders open how hard would it be to get a few missiles into the states and pop a few U.S. flag carriers ? Talk about more national security directives and rights taken... If that happens there are all kinds of possibilities; none good IMO.

There has to be more than this amateur bunch guiding national and world events or we really have some dummies in high places..... or maybe there really are puppet masters who have their control strings attached to most everything. Either way pretty sickening IMO.



posted on Jun, 18 2014 @ 08:53 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: St Udio



I think it has to do more with his personal views about US power.

Like :

www.telegraph.co.uk...

www.nytimes.com...

The naivete of this guy is dangerous, and is the current problem.



Wow... those Links were from back when the world embraced him as a Messiah..... which he did not disagree with

but the shine has come off his Aura & he has exposed himself as an imposter....

It remains to be seen if his hubris/incompetence is the weak link ~or~ the USA itself has been commanded to Shut-Up & Sit-Down while the Adults in Geo-politics conduct business

thanks for the psyche profile of this oval-office-occupier

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posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 08:40 PM
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This is such twaddle.

We shouldn't be obligated to occupy Iraq forever because of fear.

Let Saudi Arabia go in there and deal with it. Why should we care? The middle east needs to deal with itself and it's extremist elements not US.

I find it funny that the same people that are so blase about mass shootings in our own country, and think there's absolutely nothing we can do to prevent them so don't try are the same ones that have a fascist attitude towards the middle east. and want us in their business forever which actually exacerbates the terrorist problem.

What would you do if a foreign power took over your country and then dictated to you how to run it?



posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: neo96

I figured it was obvious already, but if I have to spell it out then watch this short video of why Cheney should just shut his filthy mouth whenever the topic of Iraq comes up. He's literally the last person that should be speaking up, let alone criticize Obama.

Anyone who supports Cheney should go take a shower.




posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: neo96

Mr. Obama has told us he is "ending" the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan—as though wishing made it so



If wishes and dreams were horses and ponies, this adminsitration would ride like the wind.

Unfortunately, this is the real world and wishes and dreams are meaningless without men of action and intelligence to facilitate them. Not suggesting she'd have done much better, but Sarah Palin hit the nail on the head when she said Obama was in no way qualified to be president. His domestic policy is solely directed at buying a kept voter base and his foreign policy is the geopolitical equivalent of striking a wet match in a rain storm.

Worst president in modern history? Perhaps. Weakest, most substance-less president in modern history? Absolutely.


A BIG YES!
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posted on Jun, 19 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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Let them fight with each other...why should we get involved?

If the "Obama Doctrine" is to mind our own business and not get involved with other countries conflicts...then I support it 100%.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 04:30 AM
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a reply to: neo96>>>> Cheney can criticize Obama but its all just a show. Obama is as controlled as Bush was, even more so. Sometimes I think Cheney is still in the White House Bunker pulling Obama's strings and making him dance. He lets Hillary take over when he needs a break.
This is an engineered crisis just like the illegal swarm is engineered. All we have to do is sit back and figure out what their end game is and oppose them.
But we beat them on gun control and global warming and they still won't let either issue die no matter how the people oppose it or just don't care. They never give up.



posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 08:20 AM
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snips from the OP link:


... Iraq is at risk of falling to a radical Islamic terror group and Mr. Obama is talking climate change. Terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in history, and he goes golfing. He seems blithely unaware, or indifferent to the fact, that a resurgent al Qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the United States of America.

...Drawing an arc with his finger from Raqqa province in northern Syria to Anbar province in western Iraq, he said, "They will control this territory. Al Qaeda is building safe havens and training camps here. Don't the Americans care?"

...On a trip to the Middle East this spring, we heard a constant refrain in capitals from the Persian Gulf to Israel, "Can you please explain what your president is doing?" "Why is he walking away?" "Why is he so blithely sacrificing the hard fought gains you secured in Iraq?" "Why is he abandoning your friends?" "Why is he doing deals with your enemies?"...



No one is bringing up the problem that ISIL is invading a sovereign Iraq, right on the heels of a recent election in fact...

so indeed, Obama is saying that military combat action, war atrocities conducted by religious zealots is a justifiable method of operation towards any Nation...
AQ/ISIL must be only pesky groups of like minded individuals with every right to kill, maim, steal, rape, plunder a Sovereign State as a normal course of protest to affect societal change

Obama is denying the presence of a horde of Jihadists, and tells the Iraqi government this chaos in the country is a result of governmental policy that is not 'inclusive' enough

so, Obama is rigidly adhering to his view that there are No 'Bad' Islamists
Jihad is just one of the acceptable means of practicing the religion,
extreme Jihad is not criminal or viewed as aggression... (thus doing away with civil liberties/rights & Constitutional protections)

Obama sluffing off the actions in Iraq by ISIL is in actuality bulking up the foundation pillars of the 'Obama Doctrine'...
(no matter Who began or initiated the invasion of Iraq by the extremist Jihadists of ISIL..
the sudden mission-change from fighting the Assad Forces to causing 'regime change' in Iraq is a matter which begs to be investigated)



How might the Obama Doctrine look like if the Jihad actions in Iraq were instituted in the USA Homeland =>

I guess that only federal government infrastructure would be protected... that public protection would be cost-prohibitive, and civilians will just be so much collateral-damage
States would need to protect their own government continuity & It's populations as best they can

~OBEY~ there are no bad Islamists, Jihadists are a necessary component of Islam ~OBEY~
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posted on Jun, 20 2014 @ 03:34 PM
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I guess there will always be people making excuses for Obama, I hate to break it to some of you, but when you take that job, the buck stops with you. I don't care who came before you, what they did, I don't want to hear excuses.

Obama took what his predecessors did and has taken bad to worse. I have zero experience in foreign policy, and I can see that the position he's put the US in is the worst I've seen in my 33 years on this planet. We look like incompetent softies. It's even creeping into immigration now, everyone knows Obama either CAN'T or WON'T do anything so our southern border is getting bum rushed. It's sad to watch our new emperor playing his fiddle while America burns.





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