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originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Vovin
All very interesting, but you can post as many randomly selected videos in an attempt prove whatever point you like, but where's the evidence of ethnic cleansing, as per the OP.
Where's the evidence that the UN report is wrong?
Regards
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: cosmonova
This proves that there are far right nationalist organisations in Ukraine, which we all know. It does not prove ethnic cleansing, as per your OP. Earlier, you asked people to keep on topic.
Anyway, this type of post cuts both ways, as has already been discussed. For example, Pavel Gubarev, the self-proclaimed "people's governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic, was a member of a nasty little bunch of neo-Nazis which is well documented. He's now living his dream.
en.wikipedia.org...
Regards
there are far right organisations in almost every country. And they are minor groups who organise from time to time street protests or similar events strictly monitored by police. In some countries they are prohibited to even do that.
What we have in Ukraine is a completely different story. The far right organisations are armed by government and they now represent a core of Nazguard, Azov batallion and various other paramilitary formations roaming Novorossiya, shelling cities, destroying infra-structure, and terrorising local population.
Those ones left in Ukrainian cities organise events such as Odessa massacre, attack on Russian embassy or this
attack on Orthodox Church I posted above (thankfully they were stop before causing any damage to the church).
Bottom line is that core of Ukrainian patriotism and nationalism is Russophobia and hatred towards anything Russian.
Period. Proudly sponsored by US/EU.
Anyone who expect ethnic Russians to clap to that and support United Ukraine is out of touch with reality.
Might want to read this before you start believing Russian propaganda.
www.stopfake.org...
Oh wow one fake photo that was already widely know about as being from a film set. It certainly doesn't disprove Operation Gladio as "Russian propaganda".
At this opportunity Id like to present this video of a west Ukraine talk show that invited a veteran British war journalist to talk about his experiences in east Ukraine. When he wasn't saying the things the crowd expected, the reaction was priceless. Clearly these people have been cut off from reality for some time.
Yeah once again RT and other Russian media use movies and fake videos to try to prove a point. See this is called lying yet you continue to believe it. As far as Gladio glad you mentioned that actually that again was more Russian propaganda. Russia forged documents on that one trying to make it seem to be something else entirely.
web.archive.org...://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: cosmonova
This proves that there are far right nationalist organisations in Ukraine, which we all know. It does not prove ethnic cleansing, as per your OP. Earlier, you asked people to keep on topic.
Anyway, this type of post cuts both ways, as has already been discussed. For example, Pavel Gubarev, the self-proclaimed "people's governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic, was a member of a nasty little bunch of neo-Nazis which is well documented. He's now living his dream.
en.wikipedia.org...
Regards
there are far right organisations in almost every country. And they are minor groups who organise from time to time street protests or similar events strictly monitored by police. In some countries they are prohibited to even do that.
What we have in Ukraine is a completely different story. The far right organisations are armed by government and they now represent a core of Nazguard, Azov batallion and various other paramilitary formations roaming Novorossiya, shelling cities, destroying infra-structure, and terrorising local population.
Those ones left in Ukrainian cities organise events such as Odessa massacre, attack on Russian embassy or this
attack on Orthodox Church I posted above (thankfully they were stop before causing any damage to the church).
Bottom line is that core of Ukrainian patriotism and nationalism is Russophobia and hatred towards anything Russian.
Period. Proudly sponsored by US/EU.
Anyone who expect ethnic Russians to clap to that and support United Ukraine is out of touch with reality.
Might want to read this before you start believing Russian propaganda.
www.stopfake.org...
Oh wow one fake photo that was already widely know about as being from a film set. It certainly doesn't disprove Operation Gladio as "Russian propaganda".
At this opportunity Id like to present this video of a west Ukraine talk show that invited a veteran British war journalist to talk about his experiences in east Ukraine. When he wasn't saying the things the crowd expected, the reaction was priceless. Clearly these people have been cut off from reality for some time.
Yeah once again RT and other Russian media use movies and fake videos to try to prove a point. See this is called lying yet you continue to believe it. As far as Gladio glad you mentioned that actually that again was more Russian propaganda. Russia forged documents on that one trying to make it seem to be something else entirely.
web.archive.org...://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html
The video I showed was a west Ukraine show and has nothing to do with Russia or RT.
And Operation Gladio is Russia propaganda? You are a joke, buddy. Go educate yourself, maybe start with American-produced books on the subjects that clearly define right-wing terrorism sponsored by NATO during the Cold War. It's real facts. Just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean that you can ignore the truth.
The legacy of the American Empire is best known to the non-Americans of the world who have sat back and watched this stuff unfold. And now people like you sit there and tell me that it's just "Russian propaganda"? Do you think other people of the world are so stupid?
Excerpt of Congressional Record statement on July 15, 1994, by Senator Strom Thurmond challenging the nomination of Morton Halperin (of Pentagon Papers fame) to a Defense Department position:
CAIB 1/79: "reprints a top secret U.S. army memo on infiltrating and subverting allies--although the Army continues to deny it was an official document.''
[Fact: the Army did more than deny it was 'an official document.' The alleged 'army memo' ['F. M. 30-31B'] was exposed as a KGB forgery. See House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, hearing, 'Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive),' February 1980, pp. 12, 13 and Appendix: 'CIA Study: Soviet Covert Action and Propaganda,' pp. 66 and 67; 176-185.]
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: Vovin
Yeah, well the UN may be a joke, but that's not the point, nor is your inability to disprove anything in their report, but hey ho.
The point I am pressing from you is the evidence to support the OPs claim that ethnic cleansing in Eastern Ukraine against Russians.
Regards
There isnt any or Russia would be in front of the UN screaming. Which means it isnt occurring any where else but on Russian television.
a better description: crowd of russian pigs leaving Ukraine, hopefully forever. Goodbye, go home, go to stable, don't come back!
Putin knows that the UK is a complete vassal puppet state, that Cameron is just as bought-and-paid-for as Blair before him. Putin’s hope for diplomacy over force rests on Germany and France. Both countries face Europe’s budget and employment woes, and both countries have significant economic relations with Russia. German business interests are a counterweight to the weak Merkel government’s subservience to Washington. Washington has stupidly angered the French by trying to steal $10 billion from France’s largest bank. This theft, if successful, will destroy France’s largest bank and deliver France to Wall Street.
If desire for national sovereignty still exists in the German or French governments, one or both could give the middle finger to Washington and publicly declare that they are unwilling for their country to be drawn into conflict with Russia for the sake of Washington’s Empire and the financial hegemony of American banks.
Putin is betting on this outcome. If his bet is a bad one and Europe fails not only Russia but itself and the rest of the world by accommodating Washington’s drive for world hegemony, Russia and China will have to submit to Washington’s hegemony or be prepared for war.
As neither side can afford to lose the war, the war would be nuclear. As scientists have made clear, life on earth would cease, regardless of whether Washington’s ABM shield works.
This is why I oppose Washington’s policies and speak out against the arrogance and hubris that define Washington today. The most likely outcome of Washington’s pursuit of world hegemony is the extinction of life on earth.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: cosmonova
This proves that there are far right nationalist organisations in Ukraine, which we all know. It does not prove ethnic cleansing, as per your OP. Earlier, you asked people to keep on topic.
Anyway, this type of post cuts both ways, as has already been discussed. For example, Pavel Gubarev, the self-proclaimed "people's governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic, was a member of a nasty little bunch of neo-Nazis which is well documented. He's now living his dream.
en.wikipedia.org...
Regards
there are far right organisations in almost every country. And they are minor groups who organise from time to time street protests or similar events strictly monitored by police. In some countries they are prohibited to even do that.
What we have in Ukraine is a completely different story. The far right organisations are armed by government and they now represent a core of Nazguard, Azov batallion and various other paramilitary formations roaming Novorossiya, shelling cities, destroying infra-structure, and terrorising local population.
Those ones left in Ukrainian cities organise events such as Odessa massacre, attack on Russian embassy or this
attack on Orthodox Church I posted above (thankfully they were stop before causing any damage to the church).
Bottom line is that core of Ukrainian patriotism and nationalism is Russophobia and hatred towards anything Russian.
Period. Proudly sponsored by US/EU.
Anyone who expect ethnic Russians to clap to that and support United Ukraine is out of touch with reality.
Might want to read this before you start believing Russian propaganda.
www.stopfake.org...
Oh wow one fake photo that was already widely know about as being from a film set. It certainly doesn't disprove Operation Gladio as "Russian propaganda".
At this opportunity Id like to present this video of a west Ukraine talk show that invited a veteran British war journalist to talk about his experiences in east Ukraine. When he wasn't saying the things the crowd expected, the reaction was priceless. Clearly these people have been cut off from reality for some time.
Yeah once again RT and other Russian media use movies and fake videos to try to prove a point. See this is called lying yet you continue to believe it. As far as Gladio glad you mentioned that actually that again was more Russian propaganda. Russia forged documents on that one trying to make it seem to be something else entirely.
web.archive.org...://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html
The video I showed was a west Ukraine show and has nothing to do with Russia or RT.
And Operation Gladio is Russia propaganda? You are a joke, buddy. Go educate yourself, maybe start with American-produced books on the subjects that clearly define right-wing terrorism sponsored by NATO during the Cold War. It's real facts. Just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean that you can ignore the truth.
The legacy of the American Empire is best known to the non-Americans of the world who have sat back and watched this stuff unfold. And now people like you sit there and tell me that it's just "Russian propaganda"? Do you think other people of the world are so stupid?
No one said it wasnt real just not what you think it is as they say do some research.operation gladio was modelled after the french resistance of world war 2. The theory was when the soviets invaded Europe there would be weapons stashes and trained troops behind enemy lines. They learned this was invaluable asset during world war 2 with the french resistance. Russia forged documents to turn it into something else entirely. Trust me the soviets were goodat propaganda and Putins continuing that tradition.See the Russians forged an army manual creating the myth of Gladio.
Excerpt of Congressional Record statement on July 15, 1994, by Senator Strom Thurmond challenging the nomination of Morton Halperin (of Pentagon Papers fame) to a Defense Department position:
CAIB 1/79: "reprints a top secret U.S. army memo on infiltrating and subverting allies--although the Army continues to deny it was an official document.''
[Fact: the Army did more than deny it was 'an official document.' The alleged 'army memo' ['F. M. 30-31B'] was exposed as a KGB forgery. See House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, hearing, 'Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive),' February 1980, pp. 12, 13 and Appendix: 'CIA Study: Soviet Covert Action and Propaganda,' pp. 66 and 67; 176-185.]
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: cosmonova
This proves that there are far right nationalist organisations in Ukraine, which we all know. It does not prove ethnic cleansing, as per your OP. Earlier, you asked people to keep on topic.
Anyway, this type of post cuts both ways, as has already been discussed. For example, Pavel Gubarev, the self-proclaimed "people's governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic, was a member of a nasty little bunch of neo-Nazis which is well documented. He's now living his dream.
en.wikipedia.org...
Regards
there are far right organisations in almost every country. And they are minor groups who organise from time to time street protests or similar events strictly monitored by police. In some countries they are prohibited to even do that.
What we have in Ukraine is a completely different story. The far right organisations are armed by government and they now represent a core of Nazguard, Azov batallion and various other paramilitary formations roaming Novorossiya, shelling cities, destroying infra-structure, and terrorising local population.
Those ones left in Ukrainian cities organise events such as Odessa massacre, attack on Russian embassy or this
attack on Orthodox Church I posted above (thankfully they were stop before causing any damage to the church).
Bottom line is that core of Ukrainian patriotism and nationalism is Russophobia and hatred towards anything Russian.
Period. Proudly sponsored by US/EU.
Anyone who expect ethnic Russians to clap to that and support United Ukraine is out of touch with reality.
Might want to read this before you start believing Russian propaganda.
www.stopfake.org...
Oh wow one fake photo that was already widely know about as being from a film set. It certainly doesn't disprove Operation Gladio as "Russian propaganda".
At this opportunity Id like to present this video of a west Ukraine talk show that invited a veteran British war journalist to talk about his experiences in east Ukraine. When he wasn't saying the things the crowd expected, the reaction was priceless. Clearly these people have been cut off from reality for some time.
Yeah once again RT and other Russian media use movies and fake videos to try to prove a point. See this is called lying yet you continue to believe it. As far as Gladio glad you mentioned that actually that again was more Russian propaganda. Russia forged documents on that one trying to make it seem to be something else entirely.
web.archive.org...://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html
The video I showed was a west Ukraine show and has nothing to do with Russia or RT.
And Operation Gladio is Russia propaganda? You are a joke, buddy. Go educate yourself, maybe start with American-produced books on the subjects that clearly define right-wing terrorism sponsored by NATO during the Cold War. It's real facts. Just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean that you can ignore the truth.
The legacy of the American Empire is best known to the non-Americans of the world who have sat back and watched this stuff unfold. And now people like you sit there and tell me that it's just "Russian propaganda"? Do you think other people of the world are so stupid?
No one said it wasnt real just not what you think it is as they say do some research.operation gladio was modelled after the french resistance of world war 2. The theory was when the soviets invaded Europe there would be weapons stashes and trained troops behind enemy lines. They learned this was invaluable asset during world war 2 with the french resistance. Russia forged documents to turn it into something else entirely. Trust me the soviets were goodat propaganda and Putins continuing that tradition.See the Russians forged an army manual creating the myth of Gladio.
Excerpt of Congressional Record statement on July 15, 1994, by Senator Strom Thurmond challenging the nomination of Morton Halperin (of Pentagon Papers fame) to a Defense Department position:
CAIB 1/79: "reprints a top secret U.S. army memo on infiltrating and subverting allies--although the Army continues to deny it was an official document.''
[Fact: the Army did more than deny it was 'an official document.' The alleged 'army memo' ['F. M. 30-31B'] was exposed as a KGB forgery. See House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, hearing, 'Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive),' February 1980, pp. 12, 13 and Appendix: 'CIA Study: Soviet Covert Action and Propaganda,' pp. 66 and 67; 176-185.]
And out of all the facts that I've read about Gladio, I've never even heard that one. You should look up CIA-sponsored right-wing psychopaths that were assassinating progressive socialists, or fascist dictatorships that were propped up after WWII to act as buffers (such as Franco's Spain), or other political terrorism that was endorsed all through out Europe.
A good book to start with is called "NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe". This book is so loaded with information that it will blow your mind. GLADIO may have started off as "stay behind" networks but it was utilized much differently.
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Vovin
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: cosmonova
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: cosmonova
This proves that there are far right nationalist organisations in Ukraine, which we all know. It does not prove ethnic cleansing, as per your OP. Earlier, you asked people to keep on topic.
Anyway, this type of post cuts both ways, as has already been discussed. For example, Pavel Gubarev, the self-proclaimed "people's governor" of the Donetsk People's Republic, was a member of a nasty little bunch of neo-Nazis which is well documented. He's now living his dream.
en.wikipedia.org...
Regards
there are far right organisations in almost every country. And they are minor groups who organise from time to time street protests or similar events strictly monitored by police. In some countries they are prohibited to even do that.
What we have in Ukraine is a completely different story. The far right organisations are armed by government and they now represent a core of Nazguard, Azov batallion and various other paramilitary formations roaming Novorossiya, shelling cities, destroying infra-structure, and terrorising local population.
Those ones left in Ukrainian cities organise events such as Odessa massacre, attack on Russian embassy or this
attack on Orthodox Church I posted above (thankfully they were stop before causing any damage to the church).
Bottom line is that core of Ukrainian patriotism and nationalism is Russophobia and hatred towards anything Russian.
Period. Proudly sponsored by US/EU.
Anyone who expect ethnic Russians to clap to that and support United Ukraine is out of touch with reality.
Might want to read this before you start believing Russian propaganda.
www.stopfake.org...
Oh wow one fake photo that was already widely know about as being from a film set. It certainly doesn't disprove Operation Gladio as "Russian propaganda".
At this opportunity Id like to present this video of a west Ukraine talk show that invited a veteran British war journalist to talk about his experiences in east Ukraine. When he wasn't saying the things the crowd expected, the reaction was priceless. Clearly these people have been cut off from reality for some time.
Yeah once again RT and other Russian media use movies and fake videos to try to prove a point. See this is called lying yet you continue to believe it. As far as Gladio glad you mentioned that actually that again was more Russian propaganda. Russia forged documents on that one trying to make it seem to be something else entirely.
web.archive.org...://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2006/Jan/20-127177.html
The video I showed was a west Ukraine show and has nothing to do with Russia or RT.
And Operation Gladio is Russia propaganda? You are a joke, buddy. Go educate yourself, maybe start with American-produced books on the subjects that clearly define right-wing terrorism sponsored by NATO during the Cold War. It's real facts. Just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean that you can ignore the truth.
The legacy of the American Empire is best known to the non-Americans of the world who have sat back and watched this stuff unfold. And now people like you sit there and tell me that it's just "Russian propaganda"? Do you think other people of the world are so stupid?
No one said it wasnt real just not what you think it is as they say do some research.operation gladio was modelled after the french resistance of world war 2. The theory was when the soviets invaded Europe there would be weapons stashes and trained troops behind enemy lines. They learned this was invaluable asset during world war 2 with the french resistance. Russia forged documents to turn it into something else entirely. Trust me the soviets were goodat propaganda and Putins continuing that tradition.See the Russians forged an army manual creating the myth of Gladio.
Excerpt of Congressional Record statement on July 15, 1994, by Senator Strom Thurmond challenging the nomination of Morton Halperin (of Pentagon Papers fame) to a Defense Department position:
CAIB 1/79: "reprints a top secret U.S. army memo on infiltrating and subverting allies--although the Army continues to deny it was an official document.''
[Fact: the Army did more than deny it was 'an official document.' The alleged 'army memo' ['F. M. 30-31B'] was exposed as a KGB forgery. See House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, hearing, 'Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive),' February 1980, pp. 12, 13 and Appendix: 'CIA Study: Soviet Covert Action and Propaganda,' pp. 66 and 67; 176-185.]
And out of all the facts that I've read about Gladio, I've never even heard that one. You should look up CIA-sponsored right-wing psychopaths that were assassinating progressive socialists, or fascist dictatorships that were propped up after WWII to act as buffers (such as Franco's Spain), or other political terrorism that was endorsed all through out Europe.
A good book to start with is called "NATO's Secret Armies: Operation GLADIO and Terrorism in Western Europe". This book is so loaded with information that it will blow your mind. GLADIO may have off as "stay behind" networks but it was utilized much differently.
Read it and no it wasnt in fact most of the documents it purports to prove its case were forged all it takes is not to be gullible and do some research. This was a KGB hit job trying to make NATO members distrust one another. By using an operation from the 60s to make it seem like something else. It failed miserably mostly through the work of MI6 who traced it back to its source so to speak releasing information showing forgeries.
Gladio did exist just problem was it was simply a way to defeat Russian advances into Europe it would only be useful in that event. Since each country was responsible for setting it up in there own territory and other countries were not informed of their actions.Italy there was someone that attempted to use resources hidden by Gladio in the barcelona bombings but as later was revealled in the trial that was the actions of 2 individuals. But by all means continue to believe Russian propaganda all i can do is say you have the internet use it. Id start with the barcelona trials its all public record.
During the interview, April 8, 2014 in the Verkhovna Rada(Parliament), she said that the arrest in Kharkov is a soft penalty, all Russian should be killed,[11] because the war between Russia and Ukraine since 1654
After the May 2014 massacre in Odessa, with 38 dead after a building was set on fire), she wrote on her personal Web page: "Bravo, Odessa. (...) Let the demons burn in hell."
originally posted by: cosmonova
Irina Farion, a MEMBER of the Ukrainian parliament and a nationalist party Svoboda, urges 3-4 year old children to use their names in a "Ukrainian" manner during her visit of a child care in Lviv. "You are Olena, not Aliona. If you want to be Aliona, you should pack your stuff and go to Russia" - says Farion to a little girl. In March 2014, Farion was considered for a position of a Minister of Cultural Affairs of Ukraine.
Hatred and Nazi indoctrination forced upon children in Ukraine from early age, even by members of Ukraine parliament.
Once again, this is a country which is signing association agreement with EU in 2 days.
this is a member of parliament who also said this
During the interview, April 8, 2014 in the Verkhovna Rada(Parliament), she said that the arrest in Kharkov is a soft penalty, all Russian should be killed,[11] because the war between Russia and Ukraine since 1654
After the May 2014 massacre in Odessa, with 38 dead after a building was set on fire), she wrote on her personal Web page: "Bravo, Odessa. (...) Let the demons burn in hell."
en.wikipedia.org...
this is a member of parliament who also said this
During the interview, April 8, 2014 in the Verkhovna Rada(Parliament), she said that the arrest in Kharkov is a soft penalty, all Russian should be killed,[11] because the war between Russia and Ukraine since 1654
After the May 2014 massacre in Odessa, with 38 dead after a building was set on fire), she wrote on her personal Web page: "Bravo, Odessa. (...) Let the demons burn in hell."
en.wikipedia.org...
Farion graduated from the Philology School of the Lviv University in 1987 with honors[citation needed], while her name was entered in the book "Toiling glory of University"[citation needed]. During the college years she was a member of a Communist Party of the Soviet Union (the only student being in the Communist Party[2]).
"I would have acted much tougher - said the MP. - I would just shoot them, sorry. Hear the enemy prevails in our land. What are we talking? It had to be here to drive since 1654. Therefore, today's reaction is adequate. But measures need to be much tougher. Our people put their life. Therefore, these creatures who ride here deserve only one thing - death. "
originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: cosmonova
this is a member of parliament who also said this
During the interview, April 8, 2014 in the Verkhovna Rada(Parliament), she said that the arrest in Kharkov is a soft penalty, all Russian should be killed,[11] because the war between Russia and Ukraine since 1654
After the May 2014 massacre in Odessa, with 38 dead after a building was set on fire), she wrote on her personal Web page: "Bravo, Odessa. (...) Let the demons burn in hell."
en.wikipedia.org...
Now the funny thing about your link is that I find this interesting....
Farion graduated from the Philology School of the Lviv University in 1987 with honors[citation needed], while her name was entered in the book "Toiling glory of University"[citation needed]. During the college years she was a member of a Communist Party of the Soviet Union (the only student being in the Communist Party[2]).
en.wikipedia.org...
And when saying all Russians should be killed was it taken out of context, because here is what was said.
"I would have acted much tougher - said the MP. - I would just shoot them, sorry. Hear the enemy prevails in our land. What are we talking? It had to be here to drive since 1654. Therefore, today's reaction is adequate. But measures need to be much tougher. Our people put their life. Therefore, these creatures who ride here deserve only one thing - death. "
www.politnavigator.net...
And the video...
But I guess it was just too hard to actually research what she said before posting.
And she is talking about those Russians who have come to Ukraine to fight the Ukraine gov't not all Russians, please use the whole quote next time not a cherry picked version that backs your views.
originally posted by: Vovin
Maybe you should give pointers on how the UN is still legitimately working in the name of universal justice?
but if you can provide evidence that there is ethnic cleansing going on in Eastern Ukraine, as per OP then do so. I have asked repeatedly.