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originally posted by: demus
a reply to: St Udio
of course USA and Saudi Arabia have no connection at all...
well if they were peaceful, and did not want to kill each other, they could have refused the funding...but that takes brains, courage, and a little self-interested common sense.
these conflicts ARE ALWAYS the fault of the west (sarcasm)
these people need to friggin' work together peacefully...otherwise, let them kill each other like they have been doing for centuries....
this attack on Iraq by Sunni radicals is being directed from Arabia.
originally posted by: DelMarvel
There are media reports that they are generating a lot of income from taking over oil wells in eastern Syria.
Who is buying oil from them and how is it getting shipped out of there?
originally posted by: demus
originally posted by: whyamIhere
We are trying to solve 2000+ years of Tribal and Religious differences.
We tried. They don't share the same pride in their Country like some of us.
Their allegiance is to their Religion. Which is even more scary.
It's time to let them work it out. Why should we get blown to bits.
When the locals won't even defend themselves. Eventually, there is going to be a big war.
Until then, let them stay busy fighting each other.
I don't know if you've noticed but "you" have been there for hundreds of years.
guess what? didn't help...
now "you" want to leave?
originally posted by: Biigs
Actually when i first heard ISIS on the TV show Archer i assumed a made up alphabet agency for TV. Now i find out they exist, but i have no idea if its a super secret spy agency in real life or not.
The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) is a jihadist group active in Iraq and Syria.
ISIS was formed in April 2013 and grew out of al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). It has since been disavowed by al-Qaeda, but become one of the main jihadist groups fighting government forces in Syria and is making military gains in Iraq.
The final "S" in the acronym ISIS stems from the Arabic word "al-Sham". This can mean the Levant, Syria or even Damascus but in the context of the global jihad it refers to the Levant.
Initially, the group relied on donations from wealthy individuals in Gulf Arab states, particularly Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, who supported its fight against President Bashar al-Assad.
Today, ISIS is said to earn a significant amounts from the oil fields it controls in eastern Syria, reportedly selling some of the supply back to the Syrian government. It is also believed to have been selling looted antiquities from historical sites.
Prof Neumann believes that before the capture of Mosul in June 2014, ISIS had cash and assets worth about $900m (£500m). Afterwards, this rose to around $2bn (£1.18bn).
The group reportedly took hundreds of millions of dollars from Mosul's branch of Iraq's central bank. And its financial windfall looked set to continue if it maintains control of oil fields in northern Iraq.
An impending decision by US President Barack Obama could prove to be a turning point in the way the West approaches the dual conflicts in Iraq and Syria.
As a US Navy aircraft carrier group with dozens of strike aircraft steams northwards up the Gulf and President Obama reviews the military options presented to him by his National Security Council, the US faces a difficult dilemma that could profoundly affect Western nations.
If Washington does not intervene militarily to support the Iraqi government by helping it stem the advance of Isis (the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant) - the extreme jihadist group now controlling large parts of Iraq and Syria - the US will be accused by some of "weakness in the face of terrorism", "giving up on the Middle East" and of abandoning an ally in whom it has already invested billions of dollars of taxpayers' money in aid, and where more than 4,000 US servicemen and women have lost their lives.
But if the US does decide to intervene militarily, most likely with air strikes or missile strikes against clearly identified Isis positions, then it will change the whole dynamic of this Middle East conflict.