It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: Agree2Disagree
originally posted by: ArtemisE
Beliefs of any kind? Like it sure would be a shame if nazism disappeared or what about racial superiority or slavery types???
That is some awsome logic...
Or really if a belief system you follow were to die out. That's the only real problem huh?
It really is a shame you pretend to know me. I am NOT a creationist.
also if you notice, I'm not the one that said I support belief systems in all walks of life....barcs was....
Your statement should be redirected to him...
A2D
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: mOjOm
from the perspective of a non-atheist, you are making the same Single Most High Truth claim and being intolerant to boot. i mean how much control does atheism have to have? they are in control of the minds of our children, which they force us to send to their brain washing sessions lol you have no idea how good atheism as a world view, has it right now, and how completely intolerant the world view is against any other world view. there's no wiggle room in there. the closest i have seen to wiggle room is carl sagan's description of the 4th dimension.
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: mOjOm
from the perspective of a non-atheist, you are making the same Single Most High Truth claim and being intolerant to boot. i mean how much control does atheism have to have? they are in control of the minds of our children, which they force us to send to their brain washing sessions lol you have no idea how good atheism as a world view, has it right now, and how completely intolerant the world view is against any other world view. there's no wiggle room in there. the closest i have seen to wiggle room is carl sagan's description of the 4th dimension.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: mOjOm
from the perspective of a non-atheist, you are making the same Single Most High Truth claim and being intolerant to boot. i mean how much control does atheism have to have? they are in control of the minds of our children, which they force us to send to their brain washing sessions lol you have no idea how good atheism as a world view, has it right now, and how completely intolerant the world view is against any other world view. there's no wiggle room in there. the closest i have seen to wiggle room is carl sagan's description of the 4th dimension.
What are you talking about?? I'm not atheist but agnostic and I'm not claiming any Most High Truth.
Atheism isn't in control of anything. You must be crazy to think that. Your problem is you think anyone who isn't some devout Religious follower is therefor Atheist. How the hell is Atheism in control with the majority of the world being Religious???
You, like many others seem to hate that science is dominating over theology, even though science isn't dominated by atheists either but it is secular.
Control of the minds of children??? What kind of paranoid statement is that anyway??? As if all the crazy religions haven't been doing that forever now and are still at it today. You may not like science but it works, the proof of which is that we are talking right now using electricity moving at near light speed across the globe in a house with all the modern comforts and so on and so forth...
I'm not saying science is perfect, but it doesn't claim to be. Religion on the other hand does claim divine perfection but delivers nothing but superstitions and fantasy.
originally posted by: mOjOm
This is similar on how I view religion. Someone's Faith is supposed to be personal, not thrown around or pushed on people of another faith or no faith. But that just isn't the case with exclusive religions. The rest of us are caught between religious wars, religious extremism, sometimes Racism, Sexism, etc. They're on TV and Radio calling everyone sinners, passing laws to legalize discrimination, removing Science from Science Class. I know it's not all of them but the radicals are going off totally unchecked and I personally think it should be the rest of the Normal Christians who set them straight. But maybe there are no Normal ones left and that is why they don't say anything, it's hard to tell anymore.
originally posted by: undo
that's why atheism has went from the neutrality of things like deism, to the hard core atheism where we are mandated by law, to send our children to schools where they are brainwashed into believing things that may or may not be completely true. you realize, that whole approach to other people's world views is isolated to a few select groups that repeat this same thing through out history?
I know it's not all of them but the radicals are going off totally unchecked and I personally think it should be the rest of the Normal Christians who set them straight. But maybe there are no Normal ones left and that is why they don't say anything, it's hard to tell anymore.