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How will the world remember America?

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

Prove me wrong.


I don't have to, the statement itself has ignorance and ridiculousness written all over it.

Now, do you have anything to add that is longer than a 3 word post?



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

Yes I do.

Americans are great!



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: thesaneone
Nothing would make me happier then having America isolate herself from the rest of the world just so we can sit back and listen to the rest of the world cry and beg for our help and when we ignore the cries for help then we can read on ATS how mean we are for not helping.

Point is no matter what we do or don't do other countries will always hate America and for no other reason then jealousy.


You're probably right.....

Anyone who thinks Churchill would have asked for help if he didn't need it is a fool. He was one of the strongest leaders in history, he liked to say he wooed Roosevelt into the war. Churchill was an intellectual giant compared to Roosevelt. He would have never asked if he didn't need it. How he and Roosevelt actually got us into the war is yet another conspiracy.


Churchill knew that American as well as British interests where under threat from Nazi Germany. Why should Britain alone take the fight to Nazi's.Churchill wanted The U.S. to make a fair contribution in defeating Hitler. Only problem is the American's charged for it.

Probably the only "Charge" they made throughout the war




OMG, so let me get this right, England is evacuating its troops from France (Dunkirk) and London is getting bombed and Churchill says to himself ""I think America should carry their fair share so I'll just let our citizens get killed until America steps up" Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? If Churchill was still alive he would strip you of that uniform. America got into the war because England, and Europe, was in immediate danger of being overrun by the Nazis. If England were overrun it would certainly not be in America's interest but seriously, America saved your butts and you should be a little less divisive about it.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

Yes I do.

Americans are great!


Americans have a capacity for greatness.

Americans have all the tools to be great.

American leadership/American society has dulled those tools.

In my humble opinion.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

Yes I do.

Americans are great!


It is quite obvious that you have no intention of addressing the topic of the thread, only to troll and to disrupt conversation by throwing out catchphrases and literally making stuff up in order to attempt to make a point.

I have no interest in participating in this childish behaviour.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:42 PM
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Are you mad? Or do you just believe those American History books you read.
After The Battle Of Britain ( that was 1940 by the way) Britain was never in danger of being "Over run by the Nazi's" Britain was taking the fight to Hitler you darn fool.

Do you still believe that America invented The World Wide Web? That must be in those same American History books you have been reading.




posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

Most of the time it is not the quantity of words written it is the quality of the words.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: Kryties

Most of the time it is not the quantity of words written it is the quality of the words.


Neither of which that particular poster is demonstrating.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Kryties

Yes I do.

Americans are great!


It is quite obvious that you have no intention of addressing the topic of the thread, only to troll and to disrupt conversation by throwing out catchphrases and literally making stuff up in order to attempt to make a point.

I have no interest in participating in this childish behaviour.




Honestly this whole thread is childish, if you put any country in the ops title we would have the same comments.

All countries have the same problems but right now it's hip to blame the worlds problem on the United States you know it and I know it.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: doobydoll
Corporations and banks are America's government these days, so let's not fool ourselves otherwise - and that's why the country is heading for the toilet. It's also the reason why America is mistrusted and disliked.

How/why has such a great country allowed the greedy few to bring it down so far into disrepute?

America used to be like a father-figure to the world, not any more. Many people now see it as the mother of all corruption. And I'm one of those people.

This is what I was gonna say to Kryties.


For a long time, America was the greatest country on earth. Not since it has been infiltrated by foreign religious nuts and their banking schemes and other perverted trysts. Federal reserve and Wall Street greed has reduced America to joke status. Pathetic what we've become. Pathetic what we've allowed our politicians to be and do to other countries. Revolution and arrest warrants is the only way forward.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone

Honestly this whole thread is childish, if you put any country in the ops title we would have the same comments.

All countries have the same problems but right now it's hip to blame the worlds problem on the United States you know it and I know it.


It's not 'hip'. It's a simple fact, if America is going to bully, cajole and police the world and claim dominance and exceptionalism then expect to be held accountable. I don't see any other countries doing what the US is doing on the world stage.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Fylgje

Revolution and arrest warrants is the only way forward.


That's what I have been trying to say since the beginning, but apparently people are too interested in painting me as an "America Hater".



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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It is funny how people forget all the good things America did for the world.
Oh well.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:55 PM
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as a country with great beginnings, and hard working people, who petered out.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
It is funny how people forget all the good things America did for the world.
Oh well.


they will never admit it, and Americans are still the most giving in the world.

www.cnbc.com...

The United States is the world's most generous nation, according to a global index of giving, as a higher proportion of Americans helped a stranger than any other country in the world.

The 2013 World Giving Index – published annually by international nonprofit organization Charities Aid Foundation – looks at three measures: monetary giving, volunteering and helping of strangers in a typical month. The survey, published on Tuesday, was carried out in 2012 across 135 countries.

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
It is funny how people forget all the good things America did for the world.
Oh well.


We don't, it's just that the bad deeds way overshadow the good.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
Are you mad? Or do you just believe those American History books you read.
After The Battle Of Britain ( that was 1940 by the way) Britain was never in danger of being "Over run by the Nazi's" Britain was taking the fight to Hitler you darn fool.

Do you still believe that America invented The World Wide Web? That must be in those same American History books you have been reading.



Right, so you were taking "taking the fight to Hitler" by taking it on that famous stiff upper lip? One example

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Hundreds of German warplanes begin bombing London every night for 57 nights in attacks that will continue until May 1941. More than 40,000 people will die in the Blitz as Londoners call the air raid campaign.
Germany, Italy, and Japan sign a treaty (the Tripartite Pact) that makes the three countries allies against England and France. The treaty is also seen as a warning to the United States: Stop helping England and France. (The United States had traded 50 old destroyers to England in exchange for naval and air bases in the Western Hemisphere.)


If you have a better and credible reference I invite you to give it to back up you emotional and weak assertion.

Internet? Here you go: Link


First network equipment

Leonard Kleinrock standing next to IMPAugust 29, 1969 the first network switch and the first piece of network equipment called "IMP", which is short for (Interface Message Processor) is sent to UCLA. On September 2, 1969 the first data moves from UCLA host to the switch. In the picture is Leonard Kleinrock next to the IMP.
The first message and network crash

On Friday October 29, 1969 at 10:30 p.m., the first Internet message was sent from computer science Professor Leonard KleinRock's laboratory at UCLA, after the second piece of network equipment was installed at SRI. This connection not only enabled the first transmission to be made, but is also considered the first Internet backbone.


Again, you are invited to provide a differing reference.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: Kryties
well they ask us to leave, then the poo hits the fan they ask us to come back, we donated food and goods and are still hated, if we do help a nation in turmoil we are damned, if we don't help the nation in dire straights we are damned.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 01:00 PM
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originally posted by: whywhynot

Again, you are invited to provide a differing reference.


Thats the "Internet", the network of computers. The "World Wide Web" is the application that runs on the Internet as a platform, and was created by Sir Tim Berners-Lee who is British.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: whywhynot
a reply to: Kryties

Most of the time it is not the quantity of words written it is the quality of the words.


Neither of which that particular poster is demonstrating.


Opinions only your opinion. BTW, what bastion of freedom and harmony do you come from?




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