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How will the world remember America?

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Kryties

Miley Cyrus could make a video of her farting and she would get millions of likes for it. Does that mean she is a good person or that the whole world likes her? No she is just a stupid fad.

It is popular to hate the US right now. People are and always will be haters. We like to argue, and take other people down. Especially if they are doing better than we are.

I am not saying I agree with US policies, or like how they have handled themselves lately. However, the PEOPLE of the US are what make this country great. They do not control the actions of the few behind the scenes pulling the strings. So yes you should be thankful to the US people for the QOL you currently have.




posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

Britain did have a world empire.
One third of planet Earth to be exact.
Britain was a "doer" not a "talker"


As I said, yes I did list Britain, my point is you should be glad America did not go the same way or you might have a Texans accent today...lol We are a doer too, it's just we tend to give back what we win.

What if we let Patton keep going into Russia....


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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: alldaylong

Britain did have a world empire.
One third of planet Earth to be exact.
Britain was a "doer" not a "talker"




What if we let Patton keep going into Russia....



He would have probably ended up the same way as Hitler did.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: Euphem
a reply to: Kryties

Miley Cyrus could make a video of her farting and she would get millions of likes for it. Does that mean she is a good person or that the whole world likes her? No she is just a stupid fad.


Hmm a Miley Cyrus farting video versus a discussion on how the world views America. Yeah, great comparison mate......lol.....


It is popular to hate the US right now. People are and always will be haters. We like to argue, and take other people down. Especially if they are doing better than we are.


You just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. It has no basis in FACT but yeah, whatever.....


I am not saying I agree with US policies, or like how they have handled themselves lately. However, the PEOPLE of the US are what make this country great. They do not control the actions of the few behind the scenes pulling the strings. So yes you should be thankful to the US people for the QOL you currently have.


The policies of the American government that are rapidly destroying the world are allowed to happen by the people of America through their democratic process. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp? Why is questioning why the American people aren't toppling the tyranny they bellow so loudly against turned into an "America Hater" argument? FFS people open your damn eyes and stop being so bloody stupid.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: Kryties

America will be remembered as one of the greatest cultures/civilizations in known history.

People like you only focus on the negative aspects of America which is terrifically amusing because I dare you to look deep into ANY country/culture's history or past and find them innocent of what you accuse America of doing.

You can't. I dare you to tell me that any other culture/civilization in the position America is in (the top position) that they wouldn't be guilty of the same so-called crimes.

Human nature is human nature. Greed and hate exist everywhere.

Like any aspect of life, people are going to hate who's at the top, and sorry, the United States of America is at the top. There has never been a world power in the known history of Earth that can challenge America.

I mean, if your happy with socialism, drinking wine, laughing, eating, and enjoying life, that's fine.

But Americans, we go to moon, we dominate pop culture, we have the world' most powerful and advanced military, people come to us at a much higher clip than anywhere else to improve lives.

You can't deny any of that. We treat our citizens so poorly.....psshhhh. Even the lowest among us live comfortably in comparision to the rest of the world.

get off your high horse, step into reality, and realize Utopia will never exist.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: f4rwest

We'll put my friend.





posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: Kryties




Hmm a Miley Cyrus farting video versus a discussion on how the world views America. Yeah, great comparison mate......lol.....


Well you and your friends views are similar to farts so it was a viable comparison.




You just keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. It has no basis in FACT but yeah, whatever.....


Your opinions have no basis in fact either.




The policies of the American government that are rapidly destroying the world are allowed to happen by the people of America through their democratic process. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp? Why is questioning why the American people aren't toppling the tyranny they bellow so loudly against turned into an "America Hater" argument? FFS people open your damn eyes and stop being so bloody stupid.


How are they destroying the world? The rest of the world is plenty capable of destroying themselves without the US, and always have. Yes because the American people voting for a certain politician would make any difference in what wars we fight, or our foreign policy? How "bloody" stupid are you?



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: f4rwest
a reply to: Kryties

America will be remembered as one of the greatest cultures/civilizations in known history.

People like you only focus on the negative aspects of America which is terrifically amusing because I dare you to look deep into ANY country/culture's history or past and find them innocent of what you accuse America of doing.

You can't. I dare you to tell me that any other culture/civilization in the position America is in (the top position) that they wouldn't be guilty of the same so-called crimes.

Human nature is human nature. Greed and hate exist everywhere.

Like any aspect of life, people are going to hate who's at the top, and sorry, the United States of America is at the top. There has never been a world power in the known history of Earth that can challenge America.

I mean, if your happy with socialism, drinking wine, laughing, eating, and enjoying life, that's fine.

But Americans, we go to moon, we dominate pop culture, we have the world' most powerful and advanced military, people come to us at a much higher clip than anywhere else to improve lives.

You can't deny any of that. We treat our citizens so poorly.....psshhhh. Even the lowest among us live comfortably in comparision to the rest of the world.

get off your high horse, step into reality, and realize Utopia will never exist.


Britain's Empire was greater than America's idea of an Empire.

America dominates pop culture? Where did you get that idea from?

America went to the moon? Yes with imported Nazi rocket technology.


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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: f4rwest
a reply to: Kryties

People like you only focus on the negative aspects of America which is terrifically amusing because I dare you to look deep into ANY country/culture's history or past and find them innocent of what you accuse America of doing.


"People like me" (Im assuming you're putting the "America Hater" catchphrase on me) don't try to justify what our countries have done, in fact many of our countries have publically apologised. America, on the other hand, says whatever it needs to, including bald-faced lying, to justify the atrocious acts they have committed on their path to 'exceptionalism' - while at the same time crying out about how other countries did it to them.

The rest of your post is pretty much 'rah rah rah America is Great rah rah rah' and I couldn't be bothered dealing with that nonsense.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:02 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: alldaylong

Britain did have a world empire.
One third of planet Earth to be exact.
Britain was a "doer" not a "talker"




What if we let Patton keep going into Russia....



He would have probably ended up the same way as Hitler did.
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And if America didn't go to help in the effort of exterminating Hitler? What then? Talk all the crap you want, but the truth is it would be Herr Alldaylong. Where were all these people bitching about America when the checkbook was on the table written in blood and paid in cash? Did any of you say no because you're an arrogant country, a bully, etc. no it was always give me, just as it is today. Blame what you want, but the fact you can even bitch is provided by America and it's citizens.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: MarlinGrace

America only joined the war when they stood to gain from it, not before as had been begged of them.

The assertion that the US joined the war to 'help the world' is completely false. You joined when it was advantageous for you to do so, not before.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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Corporations and banks are America's government these days, so let's not fool ourselves otherwise - and that's why the country is heading for the toilet. It's also the reason why America is mistrusted and disliked.

How/why has such a great country allowed the greedy few to bring it down so far into disrepute?

America used to be like a father-figure to the world, not any more. Many people now see it as the mother of all corruption. And I'm one of those people.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: MarlinGrace


I was waiting for it, and it has arrived in your post. You didn't fail me.
America saved Europe, America saved Australia etc etc.
No America didn't do any of those things. It was just one part of a larger overall combination of military superiority. Unless you want to state the opposite?


So was it we offered help or did churchill come asking for help because you were getting your ass handed to you and he knew without American help it would be German school books for all. Could it have been the endless supply ships with equipment before men got involved. Yeah everyone worked and died for your freedom, but you know as well as I do we weren't even in the war it wasn't on our shores, it wasn't flying over our country. But we came to your aid, My family is still waiting for your thank you. But somehow it still hasn't arrived. You have great country men that fought side by side with ours and they would never spew this line of crap, why do you? It's unbecoming to brits for you to be this way. History doesn't play down the American involvement in WWII and neither should you.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: MarlinGrace

America only joined the war when they stood to gain from it, not before as had been begged of them.

The assertion that the US joined the war to 'help the world' is completely false. You joined when it was advantageous for you to do so, not before.


I have been lucky enough to hangout with WWII vets, I would like you to address them this way. I am not sure what we would have gained by this with the cost of life spent saving yours, let alone the cost of money. It was the change in public opinion when the lusitania was sunk that got us into the war, Germany had killed our people, sunk our ship, and destroyed war supplies to England that got us on the shooting side. It was the citizens that said if they can kill innocents on an American ship it's time to help the Brits.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: simsumre


How will the world remember America?


A country will good intentions, that went about it wrong. A country of high hopes, but poor delivery. A country that has a great resume', but bad in practice.

America is the nosy, critical neighbor with the crappy lawn and house that needs work.

The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, are wonderful documents, but they aren't used as they were meant to be used.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:30 AM
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a reply to: doobydoll

So now we are finally catching up to the rest of the world? Okay sounds good. Let me know when the UK and any other country in the world ISN'T extremely corrupted.

There is this thing called globalism now, not sure if you have heard of it. The elite all around the world are in on it. This isn't really about one country anymore, and to focus on just one is ignorant.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace
It was the change in public opinion when the lusitania was sunk that got us into the war, Germany had killed our people, sunk our ship, and destroyed war supplies to England that got us on the shooting side. It was the citizens that said if they can kill innocents on an American ship it's time to help the Brits.


So America joined the war not because it wanted to help the world but because it got attacked.

Thankyou for confirming that point and please stop suggesting that America joined the war purely to help the rest of us.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: MarlinGrace
It was the change in public opinion when the lusitania was sunk that got us into the war, Germany had killed our people, sunk our ship, and destroyed war supplies to England that got us on the shooting side. It was the citizens that said if they can kill innocents on an American ship it's time to help the Brits.


So America joined the war not because it wanted to help the world but because it got attacked.

Thankyou for confirming that point and please stop suggesting that America joined the war purely to help the rest of us.


And I guess the last sentence was ignored, let alone the hundreds of merchant marine ships with equipment and arms should be ignored as well. We were involved long before our boots hit the ground. You would have been pointing your finger and yelling bang if it wasn't for merchant marines and supplies on Liberty ships.

Oh yes we were involved long before boots hit the ground. Still waiting for thank you.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: MarlinGrace

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: MarlinGrace


I was waiting for it, and it has arrived in your post. You didn't fail me.
America saved Europe, America saved Australia etc etc.
No America didn't do any of those things. It was just one part of a larger overall combination of military superiority. Unless you want to state the opposite?


So was it we offered help or did churchill come asking for help because you were getting your ass handed to you and he knew without American help it would be German school books for all. Could it have been the endless supply ships with equipment before men got involved. Yeah everyone worked and died for your freedom, but you know as well as I do we weren't even in the war it wasn't on our shores, it wasn't flying over our country. But we came to your aid, My family is still waiting for your thank you. But somehow it still hasn't arrived. You have great country men that fought side by side with ours and they would never spew this line of crap, why do you? It's unbecoming to brits for you to be this way. History doesn't play down the American involvement in WWII and neither should you.



Please explain to me how Britain was getting it's "ass handed to it" This i must hear. Ok i am listening.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: alldaylong

Please explain to me how Britain was getting it's "ass handed to it" This i must hear. Ok i am listening.


Some Americans have an amazing ability to think something then absolutely believe that to be true simply because they thought it and despite the fact it has no basis in fact.

Historian David Starkey once described Henry VIII, the tyrant, in exactly the same manner.
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