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The New World Order/Community

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posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 08:15 AM
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I have decided to write this thread to see what your wonderful opinion's are.
This may well have been discussed before, in fact i don't doubt it.
Hopefully i can bring something new to the table.

The New World Order : This little gem most of us are very familiar with politicians have been spouting these words for a while now. This basically entails the complete control of the planet by a world government. There is a huge amount of doom writing on The New World Order and in some respects rightfully so.
There is another problem here and that is in the wording. The word ''Order'' this to me implies an ''enforced'' or ''commanded'' New World.

I do not agree with a ''World Order'' mainly because i know that it is going to be implemented with violence,force,imprisonment,religious intolerance and culture destruction. If we go with tradition of what these folk believe this ''Order'' will be brought about out of Chaos ''Ordo Ab Chao'' order from chaos.

The difficult thing is that a one world government could actually benefit humanity massively, this earth needs our cooperation with each other and so do we as humanity, these wars and tribal fighting do us no good whatsoever.
People on earth could be advised to remove borders, nationalism, etc.... and begin to see ourselves as ''Earthlings'' or ''From Earth''.
Mankind could finally begin to work together to make the best of our lives and the world in which we reside.
One language would also benefit us greatly, No more translation errors, No more confusion over meanings. and yes i am sure people would argue over what language to use.

Now i know some of us are extremely proud of our particular areas of dirt, but lets be honest national pride is extremely destructive, it fuels tribal mentality and the dislike of other people not of ones country which when looked upon from a world perspective is ridiculous in every way. This way of living my indeed have insured our survival in past times but those times are over, we have become to powerful as a race to keep on these petty squabbles between ourselves.

Religion: again another barrier to peaceful worldwide living, yet an awful thing to do would be to rid the world of religion, Why? you may ask well if we take away religion we take away hope,faith,the will to ascend, some of you claim religion is bad but you believe in various disciplines of the esoteric/occult or sciences which i must inform you all have roots within each other. The problem is not religion but the people that incite hatred and corrupt truth and light.

I was watching some guy preach about ''Lucifer'' and how evil it was the NIV bible version used ''Morning Star'' instead of Lucifer, why ? because Jesus has been referred to as a ''Morning Star''. Not once did this plumb mention that Lucifer is latin for ''Morning Star'' (roughly)
and this guy was mad, screaming and shouting. This is what is wrong with religion guys like this, people that need to go back to searching.

Ok so what if we replace there ''Order'' with the word ''Community''. A New World Community has a much nicer ring to it wouldn't you say ???
A world brought about through free information,integration and understanding. i guess what i am getting at is that a world unification would be a blessing, and we as people need to hijack Order with Community and make it our own.
Otherwise they will bring this order about through chaos and i for one am not very happy about that.
Either we begin to change ourselves and our views or we let them dictate what we think and feel. The choice is in truth in our hands and the responsibility to this change is ours.

Can you imagine if every single country shared all there resources and information, the strides in world development would be amazing and fast. All the space programs sharing and working on joint tasks, the opportunity's would be great if all worked together as one race.

Just some thoughts guy's and girl's. look forward to your comments,views and ideas






posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 09:20 AM
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One big problem is how absolute power corrupts absolutely. What recourse is there for any individual that disagrees with such a political force?

There are some global problems that do need a global solution, climate change, influence and management is just one area, the global economy also has many issues that require global cohesion to work effectively. But why do we have to change the current UN arrangement and further centralize power to achieve this? The risk of more narrow minded solutions to these complex issues do rise as less oversight and collaboration is introduced.

There are no two places exactly the same, you cannot get rid of diversity. As a growing planet we do need to work together to continue to grow, but we need to work together to work together. Perhaps in time better cohesion and more effective workings will cross and link the globe. To force such agreements before they are ready is like trying to rush baking a cake as it just ends in a burnt, sticky mess.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 09:42 AM
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You finished your OP with these words:

"Can you imagine if every single country shared all there resources and information, the strides in world development would be amazing and fast. All the space programs sharing and working on joint tasks, the opportunity's would be great if all worked together as one race."

You unwittingly show us the birthing grounds for the New World Order. It is a updated and reasonable approximation of the New Age philosophy applied to the whole world not just a subset of wishful thinking youngsters that poked flowers into gun barrels back in the '60s.

However, we New Agers have moved on to a newer New Age. This one encompasses the UFO phenomena and the motivations of the being that control such craft. The argument has elevated to a higher level than mere human desires, needs and want. The master plan has at its heart the protection of the living earth first, and then the possibility of maintaining its human population to some degree, secondly. We know this master plan these days as the very vocal argument or climate change or more precisely as global warming blamed on human activity. It is all a façade, of course, but by directly blaming human activity, then specific and drastic efforts can be made directly to tax and eliminate upon all humans those areas not conducive to the master plan.

Beyond what I have called here the New Age World Order is a intended destination few can imagine and fewer still will want. That inevitable end (in one fashion or another) is a return to the spiritual nature of existence which includes ourselves, the globe and the universe. A major aspect of that change will be a dedicated (caused) shift away from materialism and the glorification of individualism, nationalism, and consumption. If those goals sounds like the words of some starry-eyed lunatic, so be it. You could want for something better?



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 09:51 AM
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Centralizing does not make things work better. Instead, it makes things worse. Areas lose their independence and self-reliance and ability to be self-sufficient. If something happens that breaks down the centralized system, whole areas can be doomed because they've lost the capacity to take care of themselves without being integrated in the whole.

The bigger your centralized system gets the less impersonal and responsive it can be to the needs of its people and smaller regions. The impulse is there more and more to impose large, one-size-fits all solutions and policies on the people without leaving them free to find what works best for them. Look at Obamacare which imposes costly schemes on every state regardless of the state's circumstances - a state like Alaska is expected to pay the same as a state like California or Texas. How does Alaska do this with its smaller population? The Centralized fed doesn't care. In order to globalize, this problem would only get worse. How would a region like Guatemala or Burundi pay on the same scale as a region like the US or Canada?

Not only that, but what recourse would an individual have to their representatives? We complain about how our polticians are out of touch with us now! Amplify that to a global scale, and the problem would only get that much worse.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: kwakakev

I do agree about absolute power being corrupting, which is why the power of our planet should not be in the hands of a few top dog's so to speak. I have not got instant solutions to these problems but am willing to try and work some out.
I also do not believe it a good idea to remove diversity or even try, but cooperation does not mean to loose ones individuality or culture.




To force such agreements before they are ready is like trying to rush baking a cake as it just ends in a burnt, sticky mess.


The above is kind of my point, If we as mankind do not take this New World and make it ours. it will undoubtedly be shoved down our throat with a level of violence i am sure most of us would rather avoid.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 05:24 PM
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Plenty of options. We could just let an elite order take what they want in return for enough to let a sub societies exist.
Like the status quo most countries have with their governments now but one centralized.

Do we feel strongly enough about our freedoms and possessions to let it all go to waste, is there a problem in the first place?

Do you believe a harmonic NWO is possible.

We seem to be at a cross roads. Certain paths have unwanted consequences. Which consequences will come to be.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 05:33 PM
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I look forward to a Socialist NWO, One World Socialist Government, global adoption of a centrally cybernetically planned global, moneyless, property-less, inheritance-less resource and energy based, egalitarian society economy (as opposed to monetary units private parties are able to conjure up out of nothing at will in arbitrary amounts and distribute just as whimsically).



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 05:34 PM
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a reply to: Aliensun

Starry-eyed lunatic lol not at all, you gave a very interesting answer, while the UFO phenomena is of high import/interest would it not be better to sort ones house out before inviting the neighbors round, in other words we can search and hope all we like but if they are watching and see our world in such a mess i do not blame them for staying well out of the lime light.

The dedicated (caused) shift you talk about is indeed an inevitable outcome but in two directions, the way in which this shift comes about is important in my view, if done with great negativity it could well put us into a very unexpected predicament, on the other hand if done through unification and understanding our new world will be glorious and beautiful.

I hope i haven't misunderstood your response in my reply



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I can see your point loud and clear, you can see this with the way corporations and organizations are at present. the bigger they get the worse your service and product is.
But there is one major underlying factor in this, and that is Money or more appropriately Profit, The way in which the system is set up means that for a business to succeed in our world it needs to constantly reduce cost while improving profit. This in itself causes company's and corporations to loose all ethical standards and strive for profit over quality of product or quality of service especially when they get large.
I do believe it wholly possible for a company/corporation to be run differently and yes i think this goes for governments as well. When profit is removed as the overall goal then we may be on the right track.

you mention that enlargement or centralization causes One size fits all solutions it would appear this way but at the same time we again have to look at the mentality behind these decisions and again you can bet it comes down to making money and profit. There is no reason on earth why people in government should be out of touch with us after all they are human to (some would disagree lol). So one must ask why they are out of touch? well i would say it's the whole wealth thing again.
I do not blame money, after all it is paper. it has no bad intent. But i do blame the mentality of the people who control the money.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: guidetube




Do you believe a harmonic NWO is possible.


Yes but without the order bit
Through a world community. Words can be very powerful. the minds associations can make all the difference to the outcome.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:14 PM
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A world government is inevitable.

I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:20 PM
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Any existing order that is peaceful and efficient, and is not controlled by TPTB will undergo chaos. Intentionally.

They have plainly stated their plans--elimination of Christianity, elimination of the family unit, dependence upon the State for all necessities, elimination of weapons in the hands of civilians, decrease in proportion of white race--the list goes on. Sounds more like Hell than Heaven.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: Annee



A world government is inevitable. I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.


Have you even read the thread ???
I am certainly not questioning whether or not this will happen.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: Tusks




They have plainly stated their plans--elimination of Christianity, elimination of the family unit, dependence upon the State for all necessities, elimination of weapons in the hands of civilians, decrease in proportion of white race--the list goes on. Sounds more like Hell than Heaven.


Which is why we the people of this planet need to begin focusing on changing the outcome to a more positive one!

We are the key to our future.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 07:03 PM
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There would be nothing greater in this world for all the national borders to disappear, everyone live in peace, and all wars to end.

But it's not going to happen. There won't be peace. As long as we aren't free, there will always be conflict. As long as there are people that tell you how you should live, there will always be a force to combat them.

Its not as much about freedom, though, as it is ideology. Any form of government will adapt an ideology and then make it mandatory. That is what a government does. There will be groups of people that disagree with the ideology, and thus, you will have conflict, up to and including all out war.

I think freedom is the correct ideology, but it doesn't matter what I think. As long as others disagree, there won't be peace. A world government won't work and it won't be accepted well by many people.

The problem with government is that they adapt an ideology and then make it mandatory. Some people think we should love everyone and accept everyone, but other people think that there are some things that don't deserve love or acceptance. Ideology is a personal thing. When the government adapts an ideology and rules according to it, it is imposing their ideology onto people. People are defined by their ideologies. So, if a government is imposing their ideology on people, they are imposing their identity on them. This is oppression. This has been the cause of all wars and conflicts.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
A world government is inevitable.

I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.


But all governments in history have failed.

How could any new one work?

They are making progress however.

The worldwide central banking system is evidence.

As soon as they get all the countries with "worthy enough" resources on board financially, they will move to the next step of total herding & compartmentalization of people.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 07:57 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee
A world government is inevitable.

I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.


But all governments in history have failed.

How could any new one work?

They are making progress however.

The worldwide central banking system is evidence.

As soon as they get all the countries with "worthy enough" resources on board financially, they will move to the next step of total herding & compartmentalization of people.



You prefer anarchy?

The animalistic behavior of survival of the fittest? I've seen "NO ESCAPE".

One would think, humans, the supposedly most evolved species, would have elevated themselves beyond the survival instincts of lower life forms.

Apparently not.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: JokerThe1st
a reply to: Annee



A world government is inevitable. I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.


Have you even read the thread ???
I am certainly not questioning whether or not this will happen.


My point is where to put the energy and focus.

Stop fighting it and figure out how to make it work. 'Cuz it's inevitable.

And I intentionally did not use the word "ORDER".


edit on 15-6-2014 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 08:07 PM
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a reply to: JokerThe1st
Great question Joker; once we finish paving the entirety of earth we will receive a/the definitive answer.



posted on Jun, 15 2014 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: Annee
A world government is inevitable.

I'd put my focus on who & how --- not what if.


But all governments in history have failed.

How could any new one work?

They are making progress however.

The worldwide central banking system is evidence.

As soon as they get all the countries with "worthy enough" resources on board financially, they will move to the next step of total herding & compartmentalization of people.



You prefer anarchy?

The animalistic behavior of survival of the fittest? I've seen "NO ESCAPE".

One would think, humans, the supposedly most evolved species, would have elevated themselves beyond the survival instincts of lower life forms.

Apparently not.


LOL of course I said nothing about anarchy.

How could you mis-interpret so wildly?

Besides, "Humans" in current "civilized" forms haven't existed long enough to make a single government on a "civil" basis.

The ongoing NWO efforts are being forced. It is not "evolving" naturally.

btw, can you name the oldest current government?




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