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Topic started on 1-12-2004 @ 03:45 AM by Hellmutt
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In Sweden some church-society got a little shock when they opened up the church´s own newspaper. There was an announcement of who was to be the Santa
Of The Year. A known and convicted pedophile. The victims were within this church-society and everybody there know about this as well. They are quite
upset and ask their priest "Why?" and say "This is sick!". The Priest replies that "everybody should get a second chance.". This Santa might get
kids sitting on his lap again. Would you love to send your kids to a known pedo-Santa? This is insane...
Aftonbladet: Arets tomte - en pedofil (In Swedish...)
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 03:56 AM by Alec Eiffel
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Well, the church cant really complain, with all the kiddie-touching that goes down among their priests.
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 04:08 AM by Ulvetann
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Ofcourse... Swedish christian pedo santa. What else am I missing out on?
Was this in Knutsby, that infamous place with the murder-pastor, too?
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 04:53 AM by Lecky
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Ugh... A second chance?
Pedophillia is never "cured", these people are most always repeat offenders. What are they thinking? That man will most definately molest another
child...and of all jobs they let him be a Santa? Complete madness!
[edit on 12/1/2004 by Lecky]
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 02:45 PM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by Ulvetann
Was this in Knutsby, that infamous place with the murder-pastor, too? 
I don´t know if this is Knutsby. The article doesn´t mention the name of the place, but it has to be a weird place in Sweden. They say they hired him
as Santa because "he was very nice to the kids"...
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 04:11 PM by Ashlar
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even if the man was cured, he should not be given such a chance to reoffend
and the fact that he did not refuse the position, clearly shows, that he intends to enjoy the children sitting on his lap.
can anyone believe this? how can they put their children on top of this man let alone let him near children?
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reply posted on 1-12-2004 @ 05:12 PM by GradyPhilpott
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Until we decide that pedophilia is a captial crime, and it should be, pedophiles do deserve a second chance, only because we set them free if they
survive their prison time. Of course, I am speaking now of the US, not Sweden.
The real question is whether society should allow a convicted pedophile such intimate contact with children. Personally, I think not.
"Golly, Santa, what's that lump?"
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reply posted on 15-1-2005 @ 07:10 PM by iceman_dk
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i hate swedish its like danish but not really...
and there are a lut of scandinavian jokes stating that all swedes are idiots, i think they would be wise enough to not let them take a backseet ride
in santas sleigh...
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reply posted on 18-1-2005 @ 12:23 PM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
The real question is whether society should allow a convicted pedophile such intimate contact with children. Personally, I think not. 
Agree. A problem is when these persons have done there time in jail and got a new identity.
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reply posted on 16-7-2006 @ 07:10 PM by Hellmutt
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Originally posted by iceman_dk
and there are a lut of scandinavian jokes stating that all swedes are idiots 
This is true
He could at least have chosen another town to be Santa
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reply posted on 17-7-2006 @ 12:17 AM by wellwhatnow
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Currently in the US we have sex offender registries and under many circumstances, sex offenders are required to be kept away from children. For
example, most paroled sex offenders are not allowed in public libraries, day care centers, or schools. Many apartment complexes will not allow
registered sex offenders to move in.
We know that the rate of rescidivism is simply too high. Pedophiles have a sexual orientation toward children and so far we know of no reliable way
to permanently change it. In light of this, I believe that pedophiles have absolutely no business being around children. I believe that a pedophile
should not be allowed to be a Santa and should never be given any honor such as 'Santa of the Year.'
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reply posted on 21-12-2006 @ 04:32 PM by Hellmutt
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There is a serious Santa shortage in Sweden this year. There are not enough Santas...
Swedish worry over Santa shortage
21st December 2006
Sweden is suffering from a serious Santa shortage. That's the worrying message from the profession's Swedish trade organisation, which is appealing
for more Santas to come forward.
But anyone tempted to become a Santa shouldn't expect the application process to be a walkover - applicants are usually vetted over a one-year period
before being accepted. Among the requirements laid out in the association's constitution is the ability to intone the traditional Santa greeting:
"As Santa one must be able to pronounce Ho-ho-ho with a deep, warm and friendly Santa voice."
"We've got strict rules, banning people from smelling of alcohol or smoking when they are Santa," Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
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reply posted on 22-12-2006 @ 12:45 PM by The Vagabond
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So wait... having sex with children passes muster with the "United Brotherhood of Santa Impersonators" but smoking afterwards is where they draw the
line?
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reply posted on 22-12-2006 @ 06:34 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by Hellmutt
The Priest replies that "everybody should get a second chance 
 NO! My God! NO!
As Lecky said -pedophiles can't be cured. They have that itch that will never go away and that screams to be scratched. This is beyond STUPID!
It's criminal and it's asking for trouble.
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reply posted on 22-12-2006 @ 07:36 PM by southern_cross3
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Yeah, trusting pedophiles around kids is like trusting queers around Boy Scouts. Some people don't think straight (no pun intended).
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reply posted on 23-12-2006 @ 12:41 AM by wellwhatnow
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I would be one of those who don't thing straight. I am queer and I find your boy scout comment to be out of line and off topic. It sounds to me
that you are implying that queers are all out to harm boy scouts.
The rate of recidivism for pedophiles is near 100%. There are no statistics on gays or boy scouts that can possibly compare to that. If you truly
see gays and pedophiles as being in the same category, then give us some statistics to consider and tell us how gays and boy scouts tie into the
thread topic of a pedophile being named Santa of the Year.
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reply posted on 26-12-2006 @ 05:40 PM by jsobecky
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Since when are pedophiles automatically gay? Or gays, pedophiles? I would never trust a pedophile to be alone with a child of either sex. I cannot
say the same about gays.
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reply posted on 26-12-2006 @ 05:58 PM by djohnsto77
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Originally posted by southern_cross3
Yeah, trusting pedophiles around kids is like trusting queers around Boy Scouts. Some people don't think straight (no pun intended). 
Totally different things, you can't compare them. Gay men like other adult gay men who are likewise attracted to them, they don't like children as
pedophiles do. Your statement is like saying no straight man should be involved with the girl scouts because he won't be able to avoid raping them or
something.
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reply posted on 26-12-2006 @ 06:16 PM by The Vagabond
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Three cheers for the three voices of reason. I go to school near palm springs, so naturally I know a few gay people. I like to think I'm a reasonably
attractive guy, but they don't make advances on me and I appreciate that.
To take the notion that just because somebody has a certain sexual preference (straight or gay) that they will satisfy it by any means, with no
standards of morality, could lead one to believe if you are drawing from your own experiences, which raises serious questions of maturity and even
danger to the public.
I like women, but that doesn't mean I automatically try to have sex with every woman I see, and it ESPECIALLY doesn't mean I go for children- hell
my college life has been rather uninteresting because I won't date anyone under 21- I can't get over how wierd it would look for a 23 year old (who
looks more like 30), namely myself, to run around with a girl who looks like she may be in highschool or just out of it.
As such I can certainly understand that gay men don't automatically pose a threat to little boys. Anyone who can't see that... well I'm not gonna
say anything is certainly true about them; I'm just gonna say that if I were an FBI agent, I might start trying to build probable cause to search
their hard drive.
As for pedophiles though- they have SERIOUS psychological problems that attract them either to the position of power or some other aspect of these
relationships and they demonstrate an inability to calculate the incredible harm caused by their actions against their petty little desires. Such a
person is EXCEEDINGLY SICK, may perhaps need help (although in the interest of society, I see the argument for capital punishment), and under no
circumstances has a right or need to be around children, and so probably shouldn't both for the sake of their own illness and the wellbeing of the
children.
Priests give alcoholics second chances, but they wouldn't encourage an alcoholic to hang out a lot in a place where alcohol is served. Why then
should a second chance for pedophiles, even if warranted, ever involve an occupation that puts children in their lap?
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