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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Just the bible - I'm sure there are some snippets of truth in it, but it's a corrupted piece of work, serving only religious politics.
I am certain there is a creator. Too many things around us and us ourselves cannot be accidents. My certainty is not other's certainty of something else, though.
Why do you believe in the sun? I mean there is no known mechansim for which stellar fusion to operate and literally no evidence that implies that energy radiates outward from the sun to the planets. You can't go outside and look up at the sun, afterall.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Tearman
I'm saying as far as I can tell every single thread and post you've made has been religiously motivated. So ask yourself honestly when you first sought the truth about evolution? Did you even have any interest in science before someone told you evolution was a lie?
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Tearman
I read your user name, the thread title, and your post history, and all I have to say is...
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
I do not argue against evolution because of my religious views, but simply because I do not believe it happens.
Lol, YEAH RIGHT!
Do you scrutinize every scientific theory so fervently?
Nope. Just the ones I feel aren't fact. So are you saying that because I believe in god I am some how void of the ability to disagree with a theory based on scientific reasons? ...
Name one other scientific theory you've examined in such detail. For fun, let's exclude topics having to do with global warming or vaccines.
Big bang theory. Certain parts of quantum theory. My interest lie in the origins of life. The origins of morality . the origins of the universe. I mean what makes you think its true? Science knows of no known genetic pathway for which evolution to operate within nor does it have any evidence that implies the types of morphological changes said to occur are even possible so why call it fact?
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
Evidence of its corruption?
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Don't - just don't. If you try to defend that vile piece of trash I will only laugh in your face.
Edit: I don't toss out anything - I just don't believe that the writings of the insane and drugged of antiquity can be used thousands of years later as anything but grotesque horror stories to scare children.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
a reply to: waltwillis
Um? not sure where your going with that one boss.
originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Evidence? You believe in an invisible god without evidence and you want me to give you some for anything else?
Ha!
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
What a gem of a reply.
I'm not really sure how to respond to it. Should I laugh you to scorn for thinking that the theory of evolution and the evidence for it, all of which you hope to refute, is smaller and less complex than a single book?
Or should I condemn you for your provocative demand to be shown the linkage between the first living organism and a human being only so that you can refute it? (Not that I thought you were asking an honest question, or anything.)
Oh, ye generation of hypocrites. The least I can do is give your post a star. After which I may print it out and frame it.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
What a gem of a reply.
I'm not really sure how to respond to it. Should I laugh you to scorn for thinking that the theory of evolution and the evidence for it, all of which you hope to refute, is smaller and less complex than a single book?
Or should I condemn you for your provocative demand to be shown the linkage between the first living organism and a human being only so that you can refute it? (Not that I thought you were asking an honest question, or anything.)
Oh, ye generation of hypocrites. The least I can do is give your post a star. After which I may print it out and frame it.
Lol I said refute because I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact. You responded with no information from the book just the book itself. Then you proceed to act as though I am some ignorant fool without knowing anything about me. You have no desire to have an actual conversation you are merely here to troll.
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
What a gem of a reply.
I'm not really sure how to respond to it. Should I laugh you to scorn for thinking that the theory of evolution and the evidence for it, all of which you hope to refute, is smaller and less complex than a single book?
Or should I condemn you for your provocative demand to be shown the linkage between the first living organism and a human being only so that you can refute it? (Not that I thought you were asking an honest question, or anything.)
Oh, ye generation of hypocrites. The least I can do is give your post a star. After which I may print it out and frame it.
Lol I said refute because I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact. You responded with no information from the book just the book itself. Then you proceed to act as though I am some ignorant fool without knowing anything about me. You have no desire to have an actual conversation you are merely here to troll.
"I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact."
Then by all means, do so. Start a thread, include a video or a transcript, and demonstrate the inaccuracies and errors of his lectures. But until you do share that with us, we can't just take your word for it. I hope you understand.
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
What a gem of a reply.
I'm not really sure how to respond to it. Should I laugh you to scorn for thinking that the theory of evolution and the evidence for it, all of which you hope to refute, is smaller and less complex than a single book?
Or should I condemn you for your provocative demand to be shown the linkage between the first living organism and a human being only so that you can refute it? (Not that I thought you were asking an honest question, or anything.)
Oh, ye generation of hypocrites. The least I can do is give your post a star. After which I may print it out and frame it.
Lol I said refute because I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact. You responded with no information from the book just the book itself. Then you proceed to act as though I am some ignorant fool without knowing anything about me. You have no desire to have an actual conversation you are merely here to troll.
"I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact."
Then by all means, do so. Start a thread, include a video or a transcript, and demonstrate the inaccuracies and errors of his lectures. But until you do share that with us, we can't just take your word for it. I hope you understand.
Why would I do that ? You all can't even answer the one question in the OP.
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: AfterInfinity
originally posted by: ServantOfTheLamb
originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: ServantOfTheLamb
Why would I respond to such a ridiculous post. I am not going to spend the time to refute an entire book.
What a gem of a reply.
I'm not really sure how to respond to it. Should I laugh you to scorn for thinking that the theory of evolution and the evidence for it, all of which you hope to refute, is smaller and less complex than a single book?
Or should I condemn you for your provocative demand to be shown the linkage between the first living organism and a human being only so that you can refute it? (Not that I thought you were asking an honest question, or anything.)
Oh, ye generation of hypocrites. The least I can do is give your post a star. After which I may print it out and frame it.
Lol I said refute because I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact. You responded with no information from the book just the book itself. Then you proceed to act as though I am some ignorant fool without knowing anything about me. You have no desire to have an actual conversation you are merely here to troll.
"I've listened to enough of dawkings lectures and debates to know that I can show anything he says about macro evolution is not conclusive fact."
Then by all means, do so. Start a thread, include a video or a transcript, and demonstrate the inaccuracies and errors of his lectures. But until you do share that with us, we can't just take your word for it. I hope you understand.
Why would I do that ? You all can't even answer the one question in the OP.
That sounds like an excuse to me. You guys are all the same. You have all the answers, but as soon as we ask for them, you demand that we answer your questions first. And then, our answers are never good enough, which means that, conveniently enough, we never get around to your part of the show. You know, the part where you put up or shut up. [/quote
An excuse? Well this thread asked one question and what do have ? Seven pages of poorly attempted straw man arguments. Rather than just answer the question and explain how species can achieve those types of morphological changes genetically and with the process of natural selection working against them until they are complete. Rather than post about the topic everyone juts states something speculative then they just throw out ad hominem attacks. Or they just mention whole books rather than say something specific because they don't actually know what to say.edit on 16-6-2014 by ServantOfTheLamb because: not sure why it qouted every thing
One absolutely central inconsistency ruins [the naturalistic worldview].... The whole picture professes to depend on inferences from observed facts. Unless inference is valid, the whole picture disappears.... [U]nless Reason is an absolute--all is in ruins. Yet those who ask me to believe this world picture also ask me to believe that Reason is simply the unforeseen and unintended by-product of mindless matter at one stage of its endless and aimless becoming. Here is flat contradiction. They ask me at the same moment to accept a conclusion and to discredit the only testimony on which that conclusion can be based.