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Gold Produced From Ground Up Beer Bottles

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne

Imagine a little old lady who makes the best candy out of her house, and sells it at a local farmers market. Then someone gives her the idea that she can open her own store and start her own candy business. What is she to do? Sell candy for 20 years and save every penny? Or get a business loan?


Candy? You are comparing effectively free gold to making candy?

Let's do the maths. They claim 400oz of gold per ton of brown glass.

One empty beer bottle weighs about 7oz.

One ton is 32,000 ounces so yield of gold from one bottle should be:

400 x 7 / 32000 = 0.0875oz.

Today's gold price is US$1281 per oz.

So one beer bottle yields 0.0875 x 1281 = $112 of gold.

And they claim the energy required is of negligible cost, so they should be clearing more than $100 of FREE MONEY per empty bottle.

It's recycling day today and I estimate I put out more than two dozen empties this morning. That would be $2500 of gold.


They can waste years collecting beer bottles (which are not exactly free)


Oh come on. At $100 of gold per bottle they could buy 12-packs of the most expensive, hipsterest craft beer, tip the lot down the drain and still be making hundreds of dollars profit per case.

The whole story makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.




posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 03:06 AM
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most brown glass is recycled glass.
some recycled glass is from old glass that had gold decoration.

i don't see 400 ounces per ton but likely someone put the decimal point in the wrong place.

400 ounces per ton or .400 ounces per ton that i could believe anytime.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 07:02 AM
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Specific frequencies did they say? Well, microwave ovens use magnetrons, not klystrons. Magnetrons have good output but are not accurate. Each time you turn it on the frequency will be different. And given the scale of what they are trying to manipulate, I'd think they'd have to be incredibly accurate.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist


Does this "discovery" coincide with the recent plunge in gold prices?

How will it affect the Fed? How will it affect the Reserve system?



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 08:06 AM
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originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: AnarchoCapitalist


Does this "discovery" coincide with the recent plunge in gold prices?

How will it affect the Fed? How will it affect the Reserve system?


More importantly, how will it affect the price of beer if each empty bottle is worth over $100?



I can't believe anyone is taking this seriously.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 09:01 AM
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I KNEW I WAS SAVING ALL THOSE OLD BEER BOTTLES FOR A REASON!!


This is great news. I've said it for a long time; Gold and diamonds should be set at pennies per pound. I've never believed that gold was really rare and I definitely do not believe that diamonds are rare. This will be a good start to a needed scenario. At some point, we may all be abler to make mass amounts of gold. It will become as plastic.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: Rob48
I can't believe anyone is taking this seriously.


P.T. Barnum is getting a good chuckle right now.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 09:26 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: WeAre0ne

the point is NONE of this is on the scale that these people are claiming........

Again you are splitting hairs, yes we know things like this can be done on a small scale......

These guys are asking people to believe with NO PROOF that they can do this on a massive scale......

Like someone mentioned early on, if they can really do this and it has been proven that they can do this, why do they need to have other people finance this?

again.....its rubbish


You are denouncing something as rubbish, you are guilty of essentially the same thing as the other guy.

Shooting the messenger is a logical fallacy see :-
en.wikipedia.org...

Sure I believe the thing is probably bunk/incredible woo but I do value are the snippets of information
here and there which come in. If I had a discovery that would essentially devalue the current paradigm
then I would also be rushing to make it mainstream. Not everyone is a capitalistic greedy whore.

I remind you that this is a fringe/conspiracy theory forum. Truth is rarely found, but it does
make interesting reads and educates people at the same time.

(Kudos to the guy who actually mailed them and wants to see their process.)
Limbo



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:08 AM
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Oh come on. At $100 of gold per bottle they could buy 12-packs of the most expensive, hipsterest craft beer, tip the lot down the drain and still be making hundreds of dollars profit per case.

The whole story makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.


It kinda makes me wonder if when they were putting together their pitch if they hadn't already tipped one too many down.

From the looks of them they are not short on beer bottles.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:26 AM
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Does this mean I can buy beer , drink it , and than hand her over my empty bottle of beer to my wife instead of buying her jewelry?

Also keep an eye out for large cargo orders of beer on route to Fort Knox.

If this is true this has the potential economic impact of generating free energy.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: Rob48

You have a masters degree in chemistry but you fail at math and business... You completely ignored a simple thing called EXPENSES.

Sure 1 bottle could yield $112 according to the elementary math you tried to display to appear smart... But how much of that will then be used to pay expenses?

It takes time and energy to make the gold, apparently. The time and labor it took to collect the bottles. The time, electricity, water and labor it took to grind the glass into fine particles using that machine. The time and energy it took to heat the glass up until it is molten. The time and electricity it took to run that molten mixture in a microwave for a long period of time. The time, energy, and materials it takes to refine the final mixture for gold. Not to mention the wear and tear all this has on the equipment. Those magnetrons on the microwaves wont last long if there is metal inside them, and they are running for hours at a time, so take into account new microwaves every so often.

By the time they are done with one bottle, how much of that $112 is left?

They claimed the process can take up to one full day. At minimum wage in California ($8.00 per hour), they could only afford 1 employee for 1 day with 1 bottle.

Yeah, you have no idea what you are talking about. I can't believe your post got 8 stars.

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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: WeAre0ne

Seems like you're trying to find every excuse under the sun to skirt round the glaring logical flaws of their claims.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: Flux8

They are talking about the Larmor Frequency. It doesn't have to be exact, but within a range.

A cavity magnetron can be modified to fall within the desired frequency range by modifying the size of the cavity.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 10:58 AM
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Those magnetrons on the microwaves wont last long if there is metal inside them, and they are running for hours at a time, so take into account new microwaves every so often.


The microwaves will last just as long as any other microwave. They are designed for that the technology to fuse or even melt glass with a microwave has been around almost 20 years. The metal they are claiming to make will have no effect. The MW they are using are made for melting glass.

So you can take that out of the mix of reasons you came up with.

I sort of wonder why they are even grinding the glass in the fist place. Melting temperature for glass is the same if it is crushed or not crushed.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: GetHyped

Because there are no glaring logical flaws besides those held by the people who are trying to dismiss this.

The main flaws are held by people who don't have any knowledge of scientific theories outside of mainstream science. The rest are trying to discredit the guy because he is looking for investors, which is ridiculous in itself.



posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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Wrong yet again. They are not just putting pure glass in the microwave... they are putting metal in the microwave too for the "seed". It is common knowledge that metal inside microwaves will reflect the electromagnetic radiation back at the magnetron and heat it up, and damage it.

Come on people... they excuses you are creating to dismiss this are just silly and not thought out.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: GetHyped
a reply to: WeAre0ne

Seems like you're trying to find every excuse under the sun to skirt round the glaring logical flaws of their claims.


I just know growing gold is possible.

It's apparent most of you are making every silly excuse under the sun to discredit this. It's incredible how indoctrinated you all are. Doing the work of your masters without even knowing it.

Mark my words, some day gold will become more abundant than plastic.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
I sort of wonder why they are even grinding the glass in the fist place. Melting temperature for glass is the same if it is crushed or not crushed.


The temperature is the same, but the time it takes to melt is reduced. There is a thing called surface area... increasing it will increase heat absorption..........

There are a couple other reasons as well.
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: WeAre0ne
a reply to: GetHyped

Because there are no glaring logical flaws besides those held by the people who are trying to dismiss this.

The main flaws are held by people who don't have any knowledge of scientific theories outside of mainstream science. The rest are trying to discredit the guy because he is looking for investors, which is ridiculous in itself.


What is ridiculous is the notion that anyone who can turn an empty beer bottle into over $100 worth of gold would need "investors". You said yourself, and I quote:


A very small group of people actually do it. They are the wealthiest people in the world and don't ever have to worry about money again.


This guy can supposedly do it and yet far from "never having to worry about money again" he is scratching around on AngelList for $25k injections.

What is more ridiculous is your argument:


At minimum wage in California ($8.00 per hour), they could only afford 1 employee for 1 day with 1 bottle.


You really think they would need "1 employee for 1 day" to process 1 bottle? Or that they would process 1 bottle at a time? Yeah that makes sense. Who doesn't understand how refineries work here, exactly? They don't process 7oz of material per day!

He wants investors to put in $25,000. Seriously, if he wants $25k he just needs to go to Costco and pick up 20 cases of beer. Job done!
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posted on Jun, 16 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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Even with the rather impressive credentials of Dr. John Milewski (and I actually admitted that previously), it is not difficult to make up all sorts of claims and theories and put them on a website or paper.

Do me a favor and read about "Ormus" and monoatomic elements and the entire THEORY this "alchemy" is actually based on...the term "pseudo science" doesn't even describe this...

BUT...let's just leave all this behind and ASSUME what they claim is correct. So...now after thousands of years where people dabbled in "Alchemy" having tried to "create" or to "transmute" elements....now someone in their backyard shed has finally found the big secret to literally "create" gold out of thin air. (Ok, beer bottles...) Amazing.

Why then is the scientific community not going all gaga over this? Obviously it doesn't even require any specific equipment if a slightly modified MW is all that's needed..and you can "PRODUCE GOLD". (Or platinum, or whatever).

Where are the scientific papers? Where are the hordes of scientists who repeated the procedures to produce gold? Where are the scientists who confirm that the theory of "Ormus" and m-state elements is correct and that you can really create elements by radiating them with microwaves? It would be the discovery of the century.

Sadly, the only "explanation" you will now be able to counter me is to make-up some conspiracy theory that all this is suppressed by "TPTB" etc...correct? Except that adding another speculative theory to the already existing theory of that gold can be "produced" is not really providing proof for anything, in fact it's what I suspect a scammer or delusional person to do.



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