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Iraq crisis: Isis militants close in on Baghdad - live coverage

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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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We I guess we can say goodbye to that nice, new expensive embassy we built.I wonder if they'll be evacuating it soon...




posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: TDawg61
We I guess we can say goodbye to that nice, new expensive embassy we built.I wonder if they'll be evacuating it soon...


I would rather say goodbye to the entire middle east, and it never be heard from again.

But I'm evil.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:29 PM
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I think I figured out the Obama Foreign Policy Doctrine



To say that this is frustrating, would be an understatement.

Foreign entities (regardless of who or where they are) know that they can act with impunity, because America is weary, weak and has no leadership with a spine.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Nyiah
This makes my blood absolutely boil. I know Saddam wasn't the best of leaders, and yes, he had some nasty things under his belt, but holy *snip*, we've messed that country up beyond repair. I can't help but wonder how the country would be faring had we not gone in guns a-blazing like we did. And if memory serves, we surpassed Saddam's numbers in civilians killed there several years ago. If our kill count surpasses that of the late "Bad Guy", then what does that say about us?

All the time, all the money, all the lives --civilian and military alike-- in Iraq. Wasted. Every bit of it, completely wasted.


I come from the generation of Vietnam...my father who was a Korean war vet, promised me that he would take me to Canada if I got drafted to go to Vietnam in the early 70's....he said the same thing, and he turned out to be right.

I too just missed Vietnam (graduated 79).I had considered the military but was afraid my government would send me to some hell hole to die for nothing.As in Vietnam, as in Iraq...



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: beezzer




Foreign entities (regardless of who or where they are) know that they can act with impunity, because America is weary, weak and has no leadership with a spine.


And we will NEGOITATE with terrorists for nothing more than a poll bounce!

We will leave the ME for nothing more than a poll bounce.

When this countries foreign policy decisions, HELL all decisions in this country are made on nothing but politics.

We are doomed.

They will win.
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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:35 PM
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the Spoils of War.


And dont forget the real reason for every war since the dawn of bullets,,

"The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (Isis) has become the richest terror group ever after looting 500 billion Iraqi dinars - the equivalent of $429m (£256m) - from Mosul's central bank, according to the regional governor."

yeah lottsa money,,,"the richest terror group ever",, i guess they will be hiring, Mercs to operate the more expensive toys left behind,,,also loot.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: TDawg61

Gee imagine all the pretty shiny phones the "mob" will find at that Embassy?



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: BobAthome
the Spoils of War.


And dont forget the real reason for every war since the dawn of bullets,,

"The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (Isis) has become the richest terror group ever after looting 500 billion Iraqi dinars - the equivalent of $429m (£256m) - from Mosul's central bank, according to the regional governor."

yeah lottsa money,,,"the richest terror group ever",, i guess they will be hiring, Mercs to operate the more expensive toys left behind,,,also loot.


I don't know why, but your comments made me think of this.
Couldn't help myself, sorry. lol




posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome
Yes Bob.I see a whole country of terrorist training camps and mass death for many Iraqis having a problem with sharia law.As for the region...God help the world.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: Black_Fox

ya but it was "Iraqi dinars",, sooo,, lol,, sounds like a Cobra job though,,," I sss said american $'sssssss, u fools,,,ssss "

lol



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Again, you're (well, your CIA and DOD, presumably in bed with Al-Muchabarat al-'Amma) are not only NEGOITATING with them... they are supporting, funding, arming, and partially even training them (according to German Focus Magazine, which refers to BND sources, inter alia).
edit on 12-6-2014 by ColCurious because: typo



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: TDawg61

its back to Bath Party and Sadist boys,,,the parents and older ones will remember,, and maybe a generation of modern children or young adults??,,not sure of the generational gap in Iraq.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:47 PM
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originally posted by: beezzer
I think I figured out the Obama Foreign Policy Doctrine



To say that this is frustrating, would be an understatement.

Foreign entities (regardless of who or where they are) know that they can act with impunity, because America is weary, weak and has no leadership with a spine.


As much as I dislike Obama I dont know what he could have done?

What ever your leader you would have faced the same problem. American troops leave and Iraq collapses. There is no situation were it would have ended well.

The whole thing was FUBAR when Bush and blair decided to go in.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: BobAthome

Actually...did they LOOT it or did they appropriate it for their new Islamic State? ISIS isn't about raping and pillaging. They are about a new transnational Islamic State for their future to build from. A good part of Syria and Iraq seems to be the goal at the moment.

Raiders loot....Conquerors just take and grow stronger. These guys are conquering with an eye toward long term.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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Again, you're (well, your CIA and DOD,


Those are not the only players in the ME.

Saudi's GIP

Irans MOIS



Saudi Arabia now "has the opportunity to regain its leading role" in the region after it "subsided in favor of Iran and Turkey following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the U.S. invasion of Iraq," in 2003, observed political analyst Abdullah al-Shummari. Read more: www.upi.com...




Bandar's known to be a fierce opponent of Iran and its sole Arab ally, Syria. His elevation to chief of Saudi Arabia's vast intelligence network, and the unlimited funds it controls, came only one day after the embattled Damascus regime was battered by the loss of four of President Bashar Assad's most important security chiefs in a bombing inside the heavily guarded national security headquarters. Read more: www.upi.com...





he Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS, also known as Vezarat-e Ettela'at va Amniat-e Keshvar or VEVAK) was created after the SAVAMA, the Ministry of Information and Security, the first post-revolution intelligence and security group that took over after SAVAK, the intelligence service of Imperial Iran, was dissolved by Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979. SAVAMA was officially created by the Majlis in 1984 and was lead by Major General Fardust, who was arrested in December 1985 under charges of being a Soviet informer. To head the MIOS a prospective minister must secure 50% plus one votes of the Majalis and must be a cleric. For unclear reasons the name SAVAMA was quickly replaced with VEVAK




With a large budget and extensive organization, the MOIS is of the most powerful ministries in the Iranian government. The ministry has traditionally operated under the guidance of the Velayat-e Faqih apparatus of Ali Khamenei and answers directly to the Supreme Leader. The group has a secret budget making it very difficult to discern how large the Ministry's operations are and to what end they are intended.


www.globalsecurity.org...


WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of the Treasury today announced the designation of the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS), Iran's primary intelligence organization, for its support to terrorist groups as well as its central role in perpetrating human rights abuses against the citizens of Iran and its role in supporting the Syrian regime as it continues to commit human rights abuses against the people of Syria.


www.treasury.gov...

Lot's of alphabet agencys operate in the ME.

CIA is not the only one.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:50 PM
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"The whole thing was FUBAR when Bush and blair decided to go in. "
actually i believe once control of the area's in question were given to BIG BUSINESS,,
it was then that Fubar began to raise its greedy backsheesh.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:53 PM
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The "war" started off wrong and was conducted poorly. Agreed.

But Obama's idea of putting out a fire is throwing a bucket of gasoline on it.

He could have made it more difficult for ISIS (name your poison) for them to attack, obtain power, territory. Instead, his weak approach has emboldened certain parties across the globe.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: Wrabbit2000

if they head towards Kuwait City or threaten Jordan,,then yes long term.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Just curious , because u might know, without searching,, how likely any of the realeased 5 , might be heading this? totally a thought, not a fact. but might be nice too find out.

having a hard time with released,,sigh.
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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: whyamIhere

Two years ago ISIS had 2500 militants and a mediocre leader now theres 50000 of them someone has spent a lot of time effort and money on these bastards and I have a feeling where not going to like the truth as to whom that might be.

What you thinking..?
Iran? Russia? China? Syria? USA??




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