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originally posted by: calstorm
I can't find the article now but I read an article that stated the children were not absent but tardy! The mother had recently lost her home and was staying at a relatives home and was having difficulty getting the kids to school on time, but still got them there.
The mother died due to the jail withholding her blood pressure medication.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: calstorm
I can't find the article now but I read an article that stated the children were not absent but tardy! The mother had recently lost her home and was staying at a relatives home and was having difficulty getting the kids to school on time, but still got them there.
The mother died due to the jail withholding her blood pressure medication.
Attendance is taken in the morning. If a child is not accounted for, the school does not get the allotted money for that child.
That's how it works.
Schools work on a budget. Child not there, money not there. The mother is actually committing theft of tax dollars allotted to the school.
originally posted by: Laykilla
Not it's not, attendance is taken in every single class.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: WeRpeons
Gee, I have never beaten or even spanked my 12 year old, and yet... she has only missed 2 days of school in the last 3 years. She probably hasn't missed more than 6 days altogether since she started Kindergarten.
I realize it's harder when you are a working single parent (don't know if this woman worked or not) with a bunch of kids, but if you're gonna have 'em and keep 'em, you're gonna have to make sure they get properly taken care of, including their education. If you can't do that, then maybe someone else needs to be taking care of them.
Absolutely dead on correct...IMHO.Star for you!
originally posted by: Laykilla
originally posted by: LeatherNLace
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
Are we really having to do time because our kids skip school?
Yes we are and yes we should. Minors are the parent's responsibility, period. I think that this should be expanded to include criminal charges for parents of bullies and ESPECIALLY gun owning parents who have their firearms used in school shootings.
Because minors aren't people, and people don't make their own decisions do they?
I'm guessing this is because you're too stupid to realize that kids can do whatever they want regardless of how "Great" of a parent you think you are. You could have been the perfect model AAA dad and then your son skips school for 2 months -- here is the catch, he made friends with the attendance lady first and she marked him present after being marked absent so it flies under the radar until they throw him out of school because he didn't show.
Then you're fined up the ass/jailed because you raised a clever boy.
Nobody should ever be punished for the actions of another, whether or not they are a minor, because we are all people and even Minors can tell you to go "f" yourself.
The point is, you can't control other people, not even kids -- therefor, you cannot be punished for what they chose to do on their own, that is not justice, that is injustice at it's finest.
Also, I didn't realize it was illegal to skip school. It might be a poor decision, but illegal? GTFO.
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: kaylaluv
I don't agree that all parents are responsible for their children's poor decisions. There are a lot of outside factors that come into play. You would be surprised how much peer pressure influences kids to take drugs and perform poorly in school. A parent's divorce influence kids and causes them to rebel. Neighborhood influences, poverty and poor role models, lack of a father or mother can also play a big role. TV and video games also cause kids to become lazy and in some cases delusional.
I know some really good parents who are having a difficult time with a child who is very defiant. Some families may have 3 or 4 kids where 3 of them our great law abiding kids except for one.
originally posted by: Biigs
How do they decide which of the parents gets to go to jail?
Maybe flip a coin or give them a choice? 0.o
thankfully a voice of reason. i totally agree with you... sometimes the parents, despite doing the best they can and having other children that turn out "good", have absolutely nothing to do with the way their kid turns out... you can put 100% of the best of everything into them all, yet one can still turn out to be a 'wrongun'... i should know.. i have 2 kids, they are at totally opposite ends of the spectrum, one is reliable, hard working, honourable, and everything everybody says is good in a bloke (not just my view), and the other is a horrible little thieving dishonourable lying swine (also not just my view). they had the same upbringing and love and care, but try as i might i couldn't turn the little sh1t of mine into a decent human being.
yeah, and divorcees. Think how much the kid has lost in a divorce without both parents there for emotional balance. So if you fail the kid through divorce, serve the time. Yeah, thats the ticket. And obesity too. How horific for the kid to have parents that selfish, or parent, whateva. Its for the kids man.
originally posted by: LeatherNLace
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
Are we really having to do time because our kids skip school?
Yes we are and yes we should. Minors are the parent's responsibility, period. I think that this should be expanded to include criminal charges for parents of bullies and ESPECIALLY gun owning parents who have their firearms used in school shootings.
originally posted by: nixie_nox
a reply to: WeRpeons
You can't mention children getting into trouble without some uneducated ding dong advocating that we beat them. Anyone who stars these people are sick and demented.
All paddling teaches children is that adults can't control their anger and the only appropriate response is to immediately react with violence.
There is a reason it is completely illegal in 37 countries and 113 countries do not allow it in school. It forces parents to actually parent instead of taking short cuts to get their kids under control. Using corporal punishment to control children isn't any better than those who are chided for giving hyper children Ritalin to control them.
Study after study has shown that children who are treated with violence become violent teenagers and adults.
Which is why teen violence has dropped since corporal punishment has been banned in schools.
It also removes the chance for the child to learn how to handle problems with emotional intelligence.
Spanking children on the butt is inflicting pain on a future erogenous zone, which creates confusion for children when they become adults and associate sexual pleasure with pain.
Children learn through the parents. Hitting is shown to kids as the only way to handle problems. They don't get an opportunity to learn conflict resolution from the parent. Corporal punishment works against the process of ethical development. It teaches children not to engage in a particular behavior because they risk being beaten. But it does not teach them the reasons and ethics for not behaving in a particular manner.
This is why corporal punishment is mainly practiced in low income and poverty situations. 'The parents are not educated enough to know how to handle children any other way.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: CranialSponge
Well, fining the parent is teaching him/her the consequences of being a bad parent. If you don't take control of your children, you are punished. It's supposed to give you an incentive to make sure your kids go to school. If this doesn't work to change the parent into a good parent, how do you think making the kid pick up garbage is going to miraculously rehabilitate the kid? It might work for a little while, but they'll just slip back into their old routine because, well kids can be kinda dumb. Parents are supposed to be adults and are supposed to understand consequences a little better.
What the parents need to do is stay on top of those kids like fleas on a dog, to make sure those kids go to school and PREVENT all the truancy. It can be a hard job when you have a kid determined to skip school, but it's doable. It really is up to the parents, though.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
The thing that means the most to my daughter is her iphone. It's her connection to everything. If I take that away from her and ground her, she is totally lost. She can't connect with her friends, she can't listen to her music, she has nothing.