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originally posted by: Magnivea
a reply to: beezzer
What irritates me is foreign nationals who have no comprehension of why we want our firearms.
Dear foreign nationals,
Not only is it written into the documents that were the beginning of our country that we could posses firearms, but we also need to be able to defend ourselves from our own government. You see, for all of the nationalism spewed from everything from Americans (not myself, I'm ashamed of what we have let this country become) to the South African members of this site, the fact of the matter is that our military is the strongest in the world and our government in the running for the most insane.
How many of your countries have started thousands of international incidents, wars and skirmishes in the past 80 years for nothing but personal interests? A few are close but still nowhere near us. We have reason to be afraid, defensive and prepared. Name calling and pushing your country's policies does nothing but show ignorance.
If someone is determined enough, what's from stopping them obtaining a large blade and going on a slashing spree? I see mentions of those fairly frequently... Our media is controlled by our government. Of course these incidents are going to be publicized beyond anything else because it's part of an agenda that's been going on for years here. Please, visit this country and tell us after that we shouldn't have access to the firearms our founding fathers intended us to have.
With that, flame away, particularly the Aussies.
Most Americans with firearms
originally posted by: LordGoofus
As a non-american, to me the answer is very obvious, and it's the same answer that's obvious to millions of others that don't reside in America. But whatever, I'm sure many others are sick of saying the same thing over and over and seeing the same fanatics get their back up over taking away their precious guns. American culture is strongly backed by violence likely due to decades of continually being at war with someone, the people seem to be in fear of everything around them. That's fine. Be afraid, kill each other for silly reasons and beat your chests. While you do that the rest of the developed world will continue to evolve and grow as a society while you board up your windows, plan for the apocalypse and rave about how america is the greatest country on earth.
There is reason to think the Port Arthur massacre was planned as early 1987 when, after a specially called Premier's meeting in Hobart in December 1987, the New South Wales Labour Premier, Mr. Barry Unsworth stated, "there would be no effective gun control in Australia until there was a massacre in Tasmania"
On Sunday, 28 April 1996, at a sleepy little tourist location known as Port Arthur, something went down that will long live in memory of Australia's collective psyche. An unknown professional combat shooter opened fire in the Broad Arrow Cafe at Port Arthur in Tasmania. In less than a minute 20 people lay dead, 19 of them killed with single shots to the head, fired from the right hip of the fast-moving shooter.
The awesome display of combat marksmanship was blamed on intellectually impaired Martin Bryant, who was held in illegal strict solitary confinement for more than 120 days, until he was "ready" to plead guilty. There was no trial. Within a matter of weeks legislation was passed to removed semi-automatic weapons from the Australian population and a gun buy-back proceeded. It is now illegal to own any semi-automatic gun in Australia.
The Port Arthur Massacre has come to be known in conspiracy circles as a "psyop". The definition of a psyop is a psychological operation or an event designed to drum up public support for some piece of legislation that would be otherwise be unpopular and probably be defeated.
originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: bellagirl
No, we happen to have a constitution that protect us from idiots specially those behind agendas in government, including the frog president in the White house, sadly Australia will never get to know what it is to be a free country, after all if history doesn't fail me they started as nothing but a penal colony.
In 1769 Dr. Johnson, speaking of Americans, said to a friend, "Sir, they are a race of convicts and ought to be content with anything we may allow them short of hanging." In the latest edition of Boswell, who chronicled this saying, it is explained by the following footnote: "Convicts were sent to nine of the American settlements. According to one estimate, about 2000 had been sent for many years annually. Dr. Lang, after comparing various estimates, concludes that the number sent might be about 50,000 altogether."1 Again, in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, under the article "Botany Bay," we read: "On the revolt of the New England colonies, the convict establishments in America were no longer available, and so the attention of the British government was turned to Botany Bay, and in 1787 a penal settlement was formed there."
originally posted by: thekaboose
but f**k yeah! 2 in 2011 from a motherf**king crossbow!
Source might be wrong but that made me chuckle (for all the wrong reasons... picturing someone sniping someone with a cross bow for some reason)
originally posted by: NavyDoc
The irony of someone surrounded by an army of armed security 24/7 promoting gun control and bans for the peons. I believe in leadership through example. Obama should disarm the secret service if he believes that people are safer disarmed.
originally posted by: o0oTOPCATo0o
My question is, where is the outrage when people get shot daily in the inner-cities? Nobody cares when kids get shot up in the streets on a daily basis, but let it happen in a school and it's a national frenzy where people attack guns, instead of why they did it.
yes there are still shootings here but i can safely say over 90% have a middle eastern name and its gang related just shooting each other in gang wars. that doesnt bother me....shoot away at each other. one poor innocent man got caught in the cross fire once and was killed.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: dashen
Can you name something good that doesn't rely on instant access to lethal force?
The hundreds of anole lizards out in my yard. They hunt the bugs that try to eat my plants.