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originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: peter vlar
First let's see how many they were. The Hebrews lived in a small town in the delta of the Nile. There is no archaeological finds to support a city of millions of slaves and their masters, millions more-- in the area. Or in the world as a whole. We can assume they were at top 50-100,000 young and old, male, female, and with their effective slave-bred jungle telegraph they all agreed to leave Eastwards one Passover a few millennia ago and rendezvous at a given place, where Moses had arranged a trap that would give them a head start.
Because of the precession of the equinoxes Passover was mid-summer and monsoon season back in the time of the Exodus, where the Nile would flood because of the West-African Monsoon, and an elaborate system of sluices and floodgates, the annual flooding of the Nile was controlled (they used these dams and sluices for natural irrigation). Moses signalled with his staff to insiders at the floodgates, so they would close them and direct the flooding Nile elsewhere or as the Bible says: "...the waters being a wall to them on their right hand and on their left." Thus the 'Sea of Reeds' became the 'Field of Reeds' or 'Paradise' to the Egyptians.
The Ankh was actually 'Key of the Nile' and it was a real key, used to open and close gates along the Nile and direct the water from pasture to pasture to exploit the life-giving source that made the whole of Egypt green, not just a thin line against the Nile, but the whole area was lush and green. In his prophecies Thoth says: "Egypt will be forsaken and desolate" -- In the latter days, Egypt will have become lifeless desert. As it is today.
Anyway, Moses et al crosses the field, signals again by raising his staff to his agents by the gates, and the gates open and the Egyptian soldiers are smashed to smithereens and are washed away.
The writing team is finishing the film’s companion book that will be released under the same title: Patterns of Evidence: The Exodus. Graphics, Illustrations and editing is underway and it will be available in both digital and printed form. Separate notice will be sent to you once the book is complete later this year.
Our plan calls for a film release in 2015. This will likely include a limited theatrical run in specific markets as well as digital distribution through online partners (e.g. Netflix, Amazon, etc.) and direct sales (DVD, etc.) through our website and others.
Following the theatrical release, our plan calls for expanding the scope to include television, web and multiple educational markets
Here are the details:
Our film will be introduced via a spectacular, one-night Fathom Event in 600-700 theaters nationwide.
The date of this premier is JANUARY 19, 2015 at 7:00 pm nationwide This will be more than just a film premier. It will also include a panel discussion with scholars and theologians who will discuss the validity of the historical Exodus from Egypt. Gretchen Carlson, who is host of The Real Story with Gretchen Carlson on Fox News channel, will be your host. Panelists include Eric Metaxas , Dennis Prager, Father Jonathan Morris and others yet to be announced.
I saw it tonight as well, but I thought that the panel was awful; you had five religious/Christian conservative/Fox News-types basically just echoing each other. Where was an atheist? Whereas was an agnostic? Where was a historian or a religious scholar? You have to have some diversity to create an intellectual discussion; the panel constituted an infomercial.
As for the film itself, although I found it somewhat monotonous and repetitive, it indeed makes a very convincing case for the Exodus' historical existence. (As a side note, I also appreciated how the filmmaker, Timothy Mahoney, took care to show Egyptians as normal people, as opposed to some Jihadist stereotype.) But what renders the film fundamentally flawed is its assumption that just because the Exodus may indeed have constituted a historical event, that historicity proves the existence of God—that God was behind the Exodus and the various plagues, that he parted the Red Sea, that there was a burning bush that did not actually burn the bush, and so on and so forth. Proving the historical existence of the Exodus absolutely does not prove the existence of supernatural phenomena, which is the near-fatal assumption provided by this film. The documentary never tries to tackle or prove the assumption.
Thus the film ultimately constitutes a case of religion using history to suggest that what cannot be proved is literally true. History can only prove the existence of history; supernatural phenomena, conversely, cannot be proved (or disproved, really), and Patterns of Evidence does not want to offer that admission. Instead, it offers a convenient conflation, suggesting that evidence of a historical event is the same as evidence of supernatural phenomena and religious mythology, basically meaning that history and religious mythology are one in the same.
They are not necessarily the same, and they are not inherently connected. A very misleading intellectual conflation occurs here, whether Mahoney was aware of it or not.
For the record, I am agnostic and not a religious person. The film did convince me that the Exodus really happened and proves strong in terms of the actual historical exploration; the fallacy comes in the movie's assumption that proving the existence of a historical event described in the Bible also proves that supernatural powers were behind that historical event and that the "patterns of evidence" history automatically validates faith-based beliefs as literal truths. In that regard, the documentary failed completely and lacked the objectivity that it supposedly strove for.