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680: Hussein, son of Ali, marches against the superior army of the caliph at Karbala in Iraq. He is defeated, his army massacred, and he is beheaded. The split between Shia and Sunnis deepens. Shia consider Ali as their first Imam, Hussein as the third Imam.
I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you withc the Holy Spirit and fire. 12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me comes Hussain, whose sandals ...................
originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: AlphaHawk
I'm starting to get confused about this ISIS abbreviation.
I'm seeing articles calling this group ISIL (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levan)
I'm not up on my terrorist groups (too many to count) so it is probably just me, or the articles. Always conflicting....
In the end, doesn't really matter what we call this clusterbuck or those involved.....nothing but an absolute clusterbuck.
In Iraq, where the U.S. force peaked at around 190,000 during the height of President George W. Bush's troop surge in 2007, almost 4,500 U.S. soldiers have died and the war has cost U.S. taxpayers over $700 billion in military spending alone.
Even as leaders of Iraq's fragile democracy seek to distance themselves from Washington, Iraq is only slowly getting to its feet after years of ferocious violence that shattered its society and killed tens of thousands of people.
While Washington has hailed Iraq's halting progress, especially as tumult has swept the Middle East, its political system remains gripped by perennial deadlock on issues dividing a religiously and ethnically fractured country.
Violence there is a far cry from the sectarian slaughter of 2006-07, but Iraq still suffers daily attacks from a stubborn insurgency allied with al-Qaida, and from Shi'ite militiamen.
Iranians support any democratically elected government that officially has the majority vote of their population...Thieves,tugs,paid puppets and international opportunists are not welcomed and will eventually be dealt with (by their own people) in severely unpleasant ways,and Iranians will surely supply the fuel for that.
originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: shapur
Iran openly supports the Alawite minority regime in Syria, and their brutal assaults on the majority Sunni rebellion... In both Iraq and Syria it is Sunni vs Shiites.
It is a conflict that is very old... The Iranians have been involved covertly and overtly in all of it... Peace in Iraq from and Iranian perspective would be a Shiite dominated Iraq fully allied with iran... For that to happen there will be bloodshed and war.
It's too bad that the Iranians and Saudis fight these proxy wars like this, and don't have the balls to confront each other directly in battle and end it all one way or another... Until they do, there will never be peace in that region.