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originally posted by: sensibleSenseless
a reply to: kaylaluv
Hmmm,
I see your point.
Fair enough - I can't speak for how much of the "gay" populace acts this way (ie forces themselves on others) - I don't go out of my way to find out who is gay and who is not.
originally posted by: EmmyLou82
a reply to: smithjustinb
So women who have breast augmentation, people who have cosmetic platic surgery or people with tattoos are all mentally ill according to you?
These people have made permanent changes to their bodies because they are not happy/satisfied/comfortable with the one they were born with.... The same reason a transgender person would seek gender reassignment surgery.
originally posted by: smithjustinb
originally posted by: EmmyLou82
a reply to: smithjustinb
So women who have breast augmentation, people who have cosmetic platic surgery or people with tattoos are all mentally ill according to you?
These people have made permanent changes to their bodies because they are not happy/satisfied/comfortable with the one they were born with.... The same reason a transgender person would seek gender reassignment surgery.
Yeah.
originally posted by: sputniksteve
I can't believe how little tolerance you have for people that aren't you.
originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: smithjustinb
What if homosexuality is nature's way to control population? Would you then consider them not mentally ill?
If nature had a way of doing things that involved creating various mental illnesses to achieve some abstract effect, then we shouldn't be calling anything a mental illness.
“I went up to my dad and just asked him why I didn’t like this (Playboy magazine), but I liked my best friend very much,” Swanson said. “I had a crush on him, and that was the first night my dad sent me to the emergency room.”
Reparative therapy in action: Swanson entered the room cautiously. He remembers the light yellow walls, the bibles stacked on a coffee table, a comfortable couch, and a welcoming man. “He said I was an abomination and the first session he listed all the religious reasons why I was evil,” Swanson said. “Which to me actually hurt quite a bit, because I was missionary kid and I had memorized all the verses he was reading to me.”
“Because all gay people had AIDS. Then he showed me everything that would happen with AIDS,” Swanson said. “He said you’ve already got this. You’re going to die, but we need to make sure you change before you die.”
After he was seated, each of his hands was strapped to the arm of the chair and softball-size ice blocks were placed in each palm. Then photos of men touching appeared on the screen. At times a heterosexual couple was shown, and the ice was removed. The ice was left on his palms, causing freezing pain, as many photos of homosexual men were shown.
Trying to believe his parents and therapist were acting for his own good, Swanson said he continued with the program and was introduced to its final stage: electricity. “Very very thin needles were inserted into my fingers, on all 10 fingers, still strapped down, and then the rest of my body was strapped down because they knew what was going to happen,” Swanson said. www.kstatecollegian.com...
‘Have you not read that the One who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh”? Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate.’ ”
“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)
In the ancient world, including ancient Jewish culture (as reflected in the Talmud), “natural” or “born” eunuchs were not associated with missing testicles. Rather, they were associated with stereotypically effeminate characteristics and behavior (just like modern gay men), and were thought by Rabbi Eliezer to be subject to “cure” (just like modern gays). Moreover, as we have also seen, eunuchs were commonly associated with homosexual desire. (For a complete discussion of the term "born eunuch" and the connection with homosexuality, see The Early Church Welcomed a Gay Man.) As a reasonably informed person of his time, Jesus would have been aware of this common view of eunuchs. Yet he very matter-of-factly asserts that some people are simply born that way. The implication of his statement is profound — God created gay people the way they are! Jesus says so. Unlike Rabbi Eliezer, Jesus feels no need to “cure” these born eunuchs. He speaks no words of condemnation. Rather he lists people born gay alongside another honored class (eunuchs for the kingdom), and accepts them as a natural part of God’s creation order.