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Texas GOP endorses ‘treatment’ for homosexuality

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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:11 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Bone75

You just hit the nail on the head - gays might try not to be gay because of the bullying behavior of very people that are 'offering' them this so-called therapy.


They would have to have reason to seek the therapy before they can be subjected to the bullying behavior of the so called therapist.




posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

No, I'm not wrong - I'm gay. That makes me an expert.

What are your qualifications on this subject?



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:20 PM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

I never criticized you one time. I have never met a Gay people that want to change.

I have found people quite happy to be Gay. If they want to change they can do it today.

I have had countless Gay people work for me. They want the same things we all want.

I do understand people do change.

They should have the Freedom to change if they want to.

I told you to get a Flak Vest on page 1. I never said anything...But, I knew it was coming.

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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
a reply to: smithjustinb

I never criticized you one time.



I wasn't criticizing you personally, just anti-therapy people in general.

I appreciate your calm demeanor. Unlike many other posters in this discussion.
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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:24 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

What are your qualifications on this subject?


I can read.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: Bone75

You just hit the nail on the head - gays might try not to be gay because of the bullying behavior of very people that are 'offering' them this so-called therapy.


They would have to have reason to seek the therapy before they can be subjected to the bullying behavior of the so called therapist.


It's the therapists that are the bullies to begin with. If those fools just minded their own business - as should everyone else - there would be no negativity surrounding homosexuality and people wouldn't feel any need to try to change to fit the bullies own views of how the world ought to be.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:25 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

No, I'm not wrong - I'm gay. That makes me an expert.


No that makes you biased.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

What are your qualifications on this subject?


I can read.


That's great, but not enough.

Think about your own sexuality. Can I assume that you're heterosexual? If so, try to imagine changing what you know to be unchangeable.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

No, I'm not wrong - I'm gay. That makes me an expert.


No that makes you biased.


of course it makes me biased! I'm biased because i don't require what you do to understand homosexuality.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:30 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

What are your qualifications on this subject?


I can read.


That's great, but not enough.

Think about your own sexuality. Can I assume that you're heterosexual? If so, try to imagine changing what you know to be unchangeable.


If I wanted to do it, I suppose I could. The desire to change is the cornerstone, whether you're gay or straight. For the gay people that want to change, they should get the help they need.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

Ah, but you don't want to, do you? Can you think of any reason why you don't want to?



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

No, I'm not wrong - I'm gay. That makes me an expert.


No that makes you biased.


of course it makes me biased! I'm biased because i don't require what you do to understand homosexuality.



Your bias is more than just pro-gay. Your bias is, "I'm gay and don't want to change, so I think every other gay person shouldn't change either". Despite other gay people wanting to change.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

Ah, but you don't want to, do you? Can you think of any reason why you don't want to?


lol. I can think of several reasons.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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And you're bias is "I'm straight and don't want to change". Can you tell me why we both feel this way?

I know that I can.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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No you can't change. Can you train yourself to eat spoiled food and like it?

No. You would vomit violently and be very ill for a while.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

And you're bias is "I'm straight and don't want to change". Can you tell me why we both feel this way?

I know that I can.



Its not about my bias or your bias. Its about the opportunity to change for the people that want to change.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: smithjustinb

No you can't change. Can you train yourself to eat spoiled food and like it?


Good analogy. But I think the answer to that question is, yes. Considering the fact that homosexual conversion therapy has had success, you can't simply say that people can't change.
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posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:36 PM
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Good analogy.


Now we are making some progress.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: smithjustinb



Good analogy.


Now we are making some progress.


I hope so.



posted on Jun, 12 2014 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite
a reply to: smithjustinb

And you're bias is "I'm straight and don't want to change". Can you tell me why we both feel this way?

I know that I can.



Its not about my bias or your bias. Its about the opportunity to change for the people that want to change.


Absolutely. The deeper concern, though is why do they want to change? What pressures do they experience which cause them to want to change something that is unchangeable?



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