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Texas GOP endorses ‘treatment’ for homosexuality

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posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 10:25 AM
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I knew this would turn into a heated topic but let me remind everyone.
The Texas GOP are not Doctors or Mental Health Professionals, though there may be a few in their ranks.

What they are is Politicos trying to further their Republican party agenda...Period!
It is not their place to establish policy that extends outside party lines, the GOP are not law makers.
all they can do is make recommendations and suggestions for the party to follow.

This bit about "Texas GOP endorses ‘treatment’ for homosexuality" was way out of line and totally distracting from the real problems our country faces. like the deficit, education, job creation, border security, etc etc etc... real issues

If that was the best 'they' could to further the Republican party--- then Texas needs to fired them all and get someone else in there who doesn't make the GOP sound like a pack of spoiled ignorant hicks!




posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 10:29 AM
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Seriously, I just can not wrap my mind around your complete and utter ignorance on this subject! I don't know a single homosexual who wants "the opportunity to be cured"! Honestly, what I see them wanting is equality in society and it's the continued backlash from uneducated, ignorant and completely foolish people (like yourself and this GOP) that creates the escalating tension regarding this issue!!

I'm only on page #1 of this thread and I just couldn't go any deeper down this rabbit hole without commenting on your statements! UGH, I mean SERIOUSLY *sigh*!

Okay, onto the rest of the tread, I'm sure we'll be speaking again
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posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: smithjustinb
I support the treatment of all mental illnesses. Whether it be Alzheimer's, autism, or homosexuality.

Homosexuality isn't a mental illness.
Definition of mental illness - A mental illness is a medical condition that disrupts a person's thinking, feeling, mood, ability to relate to others and daily functioning.


I would say that homosexuals think differently. I would say that they feel different. I would say that they find it hard to relate to a lot of people.


Grrrrr, I knew it would happen LMAO!!!

Let me ask you? Do you even, personally, know any homosexuals?! You sincerely sound as if you are basing your opinions of homosexuals on the outlandish "Hollywood-ized" version of them! Not that I have to give my personal experience/interaction/relationships with LGBT persons, but I will! My sister is bi-sexual, my cousin is gay, a friend from high school's mother is a lesbian. Wait for it (I clean houses for a living).... 2 of my customers are a LEGALLY married gay couple... who have 2 adopted children... *gasp*... and not ONE of these people wants to be "cured" of their "mental illness"! In fact, they are ALL very happy with who they are and comfortable in their own skin, maybe even more so than the straight people I know IRL!! They don't think any more differently than any one else, they have opinions on issues of all types! They don't feel differently than straight people, they are capable of the exact same human emotions as you and I! They most certainly do NOT find it har to rlate to a lot of people either, in fact I find them far more compassionate to ALL others who live with the societally imposed label of "different" than most of those you, smithjustinb, call "normal"!!!

Oy vey *face palm*!!!!!
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posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: IrishCream
They don't think any more differently than any one else


Except for the fact they want to put their pee pees where they don't belong.

This can be very bad for someone's health and well being:

sodomy

Oral sex


They don't feel differently than straight people


Except towards members of the same sex. (Kind of a big deal)


they are capable of the exact same human emotions as you and I!


Except when it comes to feelings toward the opposite sex.


They most certainly do NOT find it har to rlate to a lot of people either,


Except they'll never understand what it is to be with a person of the opposite sex. They'll never fit in in conversations between men or women about sex with the opposite gender.
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posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

We get it. Youre a bigot.

Why are you still talking in circles, making yourself look foolish?



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: smithjustinb

I'm sorry, are you now saying that gay people don't feel same kind of love as straight people? Seriously? You're adding this to your other list of frankly wrong statements, such as the reasons why we have sex as well as masturbate?


edit on 11-6-2014 by AngryCymraeg because: Typo



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb
a reply to: HardCorps

We need to do more to increase the effectiveness of homosexual treatment programs. We need to support more extensive research programs that can find the brain impairments that lead to and cause homosexuality and develop medication or therapeutic processes which have an effect on these impaired regions of male and female brains.

In the meantime, we all need to treat any person with an impairment with the same respect that you would treat people with normal brains. Just like a person with down syndrome should not be bullied, but should be cared for, so should gay people.

What we don't need to do is encourage this illness. That can only propagate it and is counter-productive to a mentally stable and healthy society.

I find it ironic that your user title is "Fight For Freedom".

I guess that only means freedom for people who share the same opinions as you.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: smithjustinb

We get it. Youre a bigot.


Yep. You caught me. I'm a bigot. I'm so ashamed of myself.


Why are you still talking in circles, making yourself look foolish?


Why are you so mad? Why do you have to resort to name calling? You're the only one being hateful. All I've said is that there is something wrong with gay people. That's not hate, its just an observation and comparison to people who use their parts for what their parts are intended for. If you fail to see the logic in my stance, you are the foolish one. You say I'm, "talking in circles". Well at least I'm saying something. All you've managed to do is go on the personal defensive and personal attack without really contributing anything valuable to the conversation. I am presenting the counter argument, playing the devil's advocate and bringing information to the table, and whether or not you agree with it, it is the other side of the argument. All arguments have two sides. I am representing one side. All you're doing is taking it personally and attacking me. You're the only one who looks foolish here, to anyone who isn't a fool.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: smithjustinb

I'm sorry, are you now saying that gay people don't feel same kind of love as straight people? Seriously?


Does everyone on your side of the argument have to resort to putting words in people's mouths to defend your stance? Show me where I mentioned the word, "love" at any point in this entire thread. Seriously.


You're adding this to your other list of frankly wrong statements,


No. You're adding to YOUR list of wrong statements.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: Xaphan

"I believe in limited government and personal freedom. Cept' for them gays. In that case they should be forced into treatment facilities where they are told they should be ashamed of themselves and their sexuality. If that doesn't work they should be forced into camps where they are kept from the general population. Now keep in mind this is ONLY because I truly believe in small government and personal freedom.

They like the same sex? What's wrong with them? I like the opposite sex. Obviously something wrong with them. Masturbation is wrong. Anything beside missionary is wrong. Condoms are wrong.

I am a BABY MAKIN' MACHINE!

No I do not perform THAT on my wife."


Hyuck



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: earthblaze
Evidence based statistics show us that up to 30 percent of non-heterosexual youth attempted suicide in the US is caused by an internal conflict with their sexuality pitted against deeply held religious or social beliefs. I believe these deeply held religious or social beliefs come from an unacceptable indoctrination that has no place in a civilised society.


20 stars and a *bow*!!!





posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: Xaphan

I find it ironic that your user title is "Fight For Freedom".

I guess that only means freedom for people who share the same opinions as you.


I am an advocate for further research and if the current theories prove to be wrong, which I suspect they are, I am an advocate for the development of treatment for those who want it.

There nothing oppressive about that.

Its pretty bad that you people are having to try to paint a false picture of me in an effort to discredit me. It shows how weak your defense of this issue really is. It seems there's a lot more emotion coming from your side of the argument than facts.

I'll give credit to flyer's fan, at least, for bringing some actual facts along with his/her emotions, although, the facts are inconclusive. Hence, why I'm only here to advocate research. Don't know what you people have against research.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: Xaphan

"I believe in limited government and personal freedom. Cept' for them gays. In that case they should be forced into treatment facilities where they are told they should be ashamed of themselves and their sexuality. If that doesn't work they should be forced into camps where they are kept from the general population. Now keep in mind this is ONLY because I truly believe in small government and personal freedom.

They like the same sex? What's wrong with them? I like the opposite sex. Obviously something wrong with them. Masturbation is wrong. Anything beside missionary is wrong. Condoms are wrong.

I am a BABY MAKIN' MACHINE!

No I do not perform THAT on my wife."


Hyuck


Like I said, exaggerating your version of what I said does what you're defending an injustice. It makes it look like you don't really have a good defense. Which you don't.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: smithjustinb

I'm sorry, are you now saying that gay people don't feel same kind of love as straight people? Seriously?


Does everyone on your side of the argument have to resort to putting words in people's mouths to defend your stance? Show me where I mentioned the word, "love" at any point in this entire thread. Seriously.


You're adding this to your other list of frankly wrong statements,


No. You're adding to YOUR list of wrong statements.


I wasn't sure what you were saying in your earlier post. Saying that gay people don't feel the same way towards members of the opposite sex is something of a stretch in my opinion.
And I stand by my viewing your earlier statements with some astonishment. Are you still claiming that we should only have sex to procreate and that masturbation is somehow perverted? Because I have to say that a substantial percentage of the human race will disagree with you. Very, very loudly.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:34 AM
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Look

Here's the danger.

If we allow the Government to establish firm guidelines
for accepted "Normal" Sexual practices---ie, everyone has to be 'Straight"

What happens if in years to come a whole new set of delegates decided
the new "Normal" is for everyone to be 'Gay' ????

Don't laugh--- remember it wasn't all that long ago that segregation of the races was considered 'Normal'.



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

originally posted by: IrishCream
They don't think any more differently than any one else


Except for the fact they want to put their pee pees where they don't belong.

This can be very bad for someone's health and well being:

[uSo you're saying you've NEVER asked a woman to allow you "backdoor access"? While that's not impossible, MANY men do desire that from their female partners.rl=http://www.hemorrhoid.net/analsex.php]sodomy[/url]


Oral sex

And, most CERTAINLY, you've NEVER performed or had oral sex performed on you! You poor, neglected fella



They don't feel differently than straight people


Except towards members of the same sex. (Kind of a big deal)

No, they have the same capacity for the feeling of "attraction, love, lust" as straight people, just not in the way you approve of! NOT a big deal!


they are capable of the exact same human emotions as you and I!


Except when it comes to feelings toward the opposite sex.

Covered this above!


They most certainly do NOT find it har to rlate to a lot of people either,


Except they'll never understand what it is to be with a person of the opposite sex. They'll never fit in in conversations between men or women about sex with the opposite gender.


Why should they have to?! I'm still failing to see the actual issue here!

You left out a lot of my comment and tried to twist my reply to you. Epic fail!!

Edit to add: OMG, I despise this "new" quote/reply method! I'll eventually figure it out, just need to post more lol!
edit on 11-6-2014 by IrishCream because: stupid quote/reply method!!!



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb

Don't know what you people have against research.


Pot meet kettle.

It is unanimous with those who research human behavior and sexuality(scientific studies that do NOT have a religious agenda). The all agree there is NOTHING wrong with homosexual and bisexual behavior.

So what do you have against their research?



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:40 AM
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2x post
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posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb


Except for the fact they want to put their pee pees where they don't belong.



Boy remind me to never shag you. Missionary style only then? Your lucky luck lucky mrs. she must luruuuurve sexy time with you.

That said. Your porn collection, pretty sure we'd see some signs of 'mental illness' there



posted on Jun, 11 2014 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: smithjustinb
I am an advocate for further research and if the current theories prove to be wrong, which I suspect they are, I am an advocate for the development of treatment for those who want it.

There nothing oppressive about that.

You claim in one of your posts that you are only 'advocating research'. And even if it is an "illness" like you say, how exactly is it a harmful illness? How does it have a negative effect on their lives? How does it have a negative effect on YOUR life? Why are you intent on researching and putting an end to something that doesn't effect you whatsoever? Nobody is forcing you to engage in homosexual activities. Why waste time and energy worrying about it? I'm straight, but gay men/women don't offend me at all, because nobody is knocking on my door and forcing their sack in my face. I just go about my straight life and they go about their gay life, and everybody goes home happy. How is that a problem?




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