There are NO Socialist countries in Europe at this time.
Start from there.
In some European countries, there is "universal medical care". (which is, I presume, the real topic meant to be refered to here?)
I live in France. There are lots of taxes, yes.
I once compared with an american friend what we both pay monthly and yearly, and it turned out that she paid slightly more than me each year when her
insurance payments were added to her taxes.
It is a bait and switch - "look over there! more taxes!" -while you don't focus on what the insurance company is pulling out of your pocket.
Whats more, she had deductables to pay in case of care, which were quite substantial, while I have to pay nothing. So I get back MORE for my money
than she does.
The quality of care is excellent. Much better than what I have ever experienced in the states. I am absolutely adamant on that. I have had three
children here, care and operations of various sorts, and never had a wait, or less than top quality care. I work in a hospital now myself.
Radiators- trying not to just mock that choice of example- For one, the same type of forced air heating and air conditioning exists in all the
european countries. (I have it in mine, for example). But many europeans have different preferences than us. They believe that forced air causes
dryness of the sinuses, mucus membranes and skin that is bad for the health, as well as causing dust particles that gather in the system ducts to fly
into the rooms and cause breathing problems for people with sensitive lungs.
(as someone with asthma sufferers in their family I have found that this is true.)
So most people choose radiators instead for that reason. They ARE centralized though- it is central heating, only with a radiator instead of air
That is one of those ignorant conclusions you hear from people who lived in a country a for a short while, and didn't bother asking questions and
looking deeper at what they observed. This happens to people all the time and they come up with nonsense. Like the french author I read once who spent
a year in America, and one day tried to give a gift to some health nut friends- homemade jam. They didn't seem to appreciate it, so she proclaimed,
back in France, that americans do not eat fruit.
Of course, they were health nuts and ate lots of fruit- but not ones cooked to death and mixed with their own weight in sugar!
But it is easy to come up with very false conclusions.
Now, I don't think such a system would work in the US. But the Obamacare system is NOTHING like the ones we have here anyway.
I think our country has differences in national culture and values that would make it impossible.
-We do not believe in helping our fellow countrymen, we believe in each man for himself.
-We believe that everyone is in a case and stays there- either you are a sick person in need, or you are a healthy person with abundance, for life.
There are haves and have nots.
The french see each individual as capable of falling on either side of that line at any moment, for no fault of their own (and do).
They don't mind paying for another to get care, because they feel they will be in need other times and the places will be switched.
They consider their government as their employee, not their "keeper". They limit the amount of power they give to it, and do not hesitate to rise up
against it en masse. The government is supposed to be the voice of the majority
, not an entity of itself, in opposition and separate from
They believe in democracy, unlike us, who believe in the power of the individual over the majority
Personally I do not believe in universally better or worse values. I simply mean to point out that, all things being relative, the type of system that
works very well in France, would not work in the US because of the cultural context.
The way people would act within that system would be vastly different.
But I repeat, just in case anyone is accidently comparing european universal medical care programs with the Obamacare type of thing- there are not
(ETA- Now I see the rest of the nonsense that had been in that article- good thing I didn't, this post would have gone on forever! What a HUGE load of
edit on 10-6-2014 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)