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The Hypocrisy of "Gay" "Athiests" or "alternative" lifestyles.

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: Helious

If the worst offending word or statement you've ever heard is someone being against religion or calling someone a "breeder" then you are ignoring quite some nasty wording that exists out there.




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Darth_Prime


Nobody is saying " don't tell people your gay" the Saint Patrick parade in New York is a good example of what the op is saying. Nobody told the gay community that they couldn't participate but when told to leave the rainbow flags at home and keep the parade about Saint paddy's day they all threw a hissy fit.



All other organizations were allowed to carry a banner "announcing" they're organization, groups that have nothing to do with St Pat. Organizers refused to allow a banner that announced an LGBT group.

This seems like another Christians are persecuted thread.

They're not. They're just losing their dominance, which means loss of control.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz


Here is another example of what can happen if you don't agree with another lifestyle.

www.forbes.com...

And there are more examples of this going on.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:25 PM
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I think the premise of the thread is good but a little off.

Being Gay or transsexual isn't a lifestyle choice. You don't really choose to be that way.

However being a Christian is a choice and you can choose that or not.

So If I say it's okay to be Gay but not okay to be a Christian, that's the same as saying it's okay to be Irish but not okay to be Scientologist. That's the same sentence.

The 3 Abrahammic religions are full of hate and backwards thinking and it's okay to not like that. It's not okay to hate a gay person. That's like saying it's okay to hate a Vietnamese person.

You can chose to accept a religion of hate or not, but you can't chose your sexual orientation. Thoughts?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: Helious

If the worst offending word or statement you've ever heard is someone being against religion or calling someone a "breeder" then you are ignoring quite some nasty wording that exists out there.




Very typical of somebody who is enabling. Minimize the intolerance and "hate' speech by saying there is worse out there..........

I'm not new, I know the score bud. The "gay community" are the worst offenders for intolerance. It may not fit into your neat little new liberal American Paradigm but it is, the truth.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: zazzafrazz


Here is another example of what can happen if you don't agree with another lifestyle.

www.forbes.com...

And there are more examples of this going on.



Reminds be of the fall of George Wallace.

The public has reached the tipping point of discrimination against LGBT.

The majority voice is being heard.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

You seem to be suggesting that "gays" and atheists are similar to weeds...

A disturbing prospect to say the least. Considering the way one typically handles weeds.


I have a different perspective on what a "weed" is and perhaps I should have clarified my use of a word with such a connotation. However, in my analogy it seemed to work well. You see the "weed" as an invasive species is normally stronger and better suited for the environment it invades. It often drives out the native species due to the lack of naturally occurring limiting factors such as predators and diseases.

Typically "weeds" are killed with poison and eradicated as a method of control, but such measures are rarely successful due to the strong and adaptable nature of many "weeds". So in my opinion the word weed was appropriate.

ETA: Also, I was talking about ideas and not people of a certain lifestyle, so it was not my suggestion to treat gays and atheists as "weeds".


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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: txinfidel

As you well know, in this context "equality" means that people are treated the same before the law.

It does not mean, obviously, that everyone agrees. You're saying that when someone disagrees with what you're saying they're somehow taking away your right to say it ... so what you're really doing is trying to shut down debate and discussion.

You jumped from your other thread to make a new thread where you're saying exactly the same thing and making vague innuendos by referring to "agendas" and "a few folks" without having the strength of your convictions to actually engage with the people you're talking about.

In your other thread, you have several members referring to gays as "perverts" and "deviants" and yet, you haven't commented on that name-calling even once. You and others have used your belief in God to try to justify treating gays as second class citizens, and yet, you're appalled when someone throws that back in your face and you starting whining about someone "bashing" your religion. So, it's okay to bash others "with" religion but it doesn't' work the other way?

I challenge you to look at your other thread (and probably multiple threads on the same subject matter) and see that you and those on "your side" use exactly the same tactics, usually first, and usually to a much stronger degree than anyone on the pro-equality side does ... I dare you to do so honestly in the presence of your God.

And if you can come back here and claim anything other than that both sides do the same thing, I will demonstrate to you the real meaning of this sort of rancid hypocrisy by pulling out every quote from every thread where you have done the exact things you're whining about above.

Discuss.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Annee


So what you are saying is that it is acceptable for gay people to bully everyone?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: Helious

originally posted by: OrphanApology
a reply to: Helious

If the worst offending word or statement you've ever heard is someone being against religion or calling someone a "breeder" then you are ignoring quite some nasty wording that exists out there.




Very typical of somebody who is enabling. Minimize the intolerance and "hate' speech by saying there is worse out there..........

I'm not new, I know the score bud. The "gay community" are the worst offenders for intolerance. It may not fit into your neat little new liberal American Paradigm but it is, the truth.


Surely then you can provide clear examples to back up your claim then, right?

Because I can certainly provide you with ample evidence of Christians calling for gays to be "put to death."

Calling gays "perverts" and "deviants" ... yeah, we're supposed to just smile and nod through that, right?

Please.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Annee


So what you are saying is that it is acceptable for gay people to bully everyone?




Did Annee say that, or are you once again putting words into peoples mouths? Wow, there's some great honesty for you.

Provide examples of gay people "bullying everyone" or admit that you're simply spewing hypocritical rhetoric.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:41 PM
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edit on 9-6-2014 by zazzafrazz because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: Annee


So what you are saying is that it is acceptable for gay people to bully everyone?




Did Annee say that, or are you once again putting words into peoples mouths? Wow, there's some great honesty for you.

Provide examples of gay people "bullying everyone" or admit that you're simply spewing hypocritical rhetoric.


Seems to me I said the majority voice against LGBT discrimination is being heard.


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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:42 PM
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Years ago I was in a "crisis". I went to church all the way up till I was 15 or so. I just couldnt fathom the answers I got when I asked serious questions.

I took it pretty personal and had debates(sometimes heated) with friends for a long time.

Now over the years I have matured enough to understand the what and why people have "faith". I have also came to peace in realizing that those beliefs do not coincide with mine.

I now pretty much keep it to myself unless someone asks. I have had some pretty serious thought provoking conversation with co workers and friends.

I understand why people believe what they believe and I am cool with that.

So you can say what you will of my beliefs. I am not the one pushing an agenda. It seems that others are though.

I believe peace is a pipe dream because everyone wants "attention". That "everyone" meaning groups, whatever groups there are.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: thesaneone

what is your argument? Are you going to just list your perceived gay faults on society? Shall I start a list of religious faults committed? I don't think you would like that would you? I don't think there is enough thread space.

Look if you can't see the ridiculousness of attacking someone else then I'm not going to change your mind, I understand that, but I can offer you this, Don't judge others incase they judge you back, try not to get involved in which slight came first otherwise when does it end?

Live and let live, if you don't, the alternative is squabbling about who slighted who first. That is an incredible waste of anyones time.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: Helious

I am not "liberal".

Great way to poison the well.

Also, have you experienced gays coming up and calling you a breeder or treating you badly or is this something you've picked up from the internet?

Please explain to me in your day to day life how a gay person has acted intolerant toward you. One REAL world example that effected you personally.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
Soon, if not already, that lifestyle that was considered normal not too long ago will be the alternative.


So again, apparently, the gay and now the atheist "lifestyles" are so absolutely fabulous that everyone is just going to set aside nature and their faith and join in???

Well over 80 percent of Americans are Bible-bleeving Christians, and 90-95 percent of the population identifies itself as straight.

I think you guys are pretty safe in your overwhelming majority for quite some time to come, honestly.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: thesaneone


I wonder what the gay pride organizers would say if the Irish took over your parade day?
Maybe something along the lines of Erin Go Braless?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: txinfidel

As a gay athiest i would agree with you. However, what's "in your face" behaviour to you, might not be "in your face" behaviour to the next person.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: seabhac-rua
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

I take it you're an American.

How long do you think your ideas/way-of-life have persisted in America?

The last time I checked America was at one time populated by a variety of indigenous peoples whom were uprooted, massacred and cheated from what was their land.

So are you a weed too?


Hell yes I'm a weed. In fact I've found out that my supposed Native American ancestor was actually a white woman from New Jersey! I'm a Heinz 57 varieties mix of 1/4 English, 1/4 German, 1/4 Czech, and 1/4 Scott/Irish, more or less.

One ancestor wiped out a whole native village in a most vile manner, many of my mother's side were slave owners, one guy was a privateer, go far enough back and you have violent Vikings, but of course that somehow makes me responsible? I have no control over history, mine or that of the invasive weed or of the influx of any new ideas into a place and time.

You sir, have no idea how much history I know about the U.S., Europe and the entire world in general, and to imply I'm ignorant of the plight of the Native Americans is insulting.

ETA: I just went to a concert at Soaring Eagle Casino at the closest Native American reservation in my area. I made a tidy contribution to their cause that night and I haven't lost any sleep over it.


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