"This is the start of a Revolution"

a reply to: DonT1
Possibly, because I see some groups getting ready to scream for gun control again.
Who benefits?
With the state that this nation is in, I don't expect to see very many lining up to give up their rights.
It looks like there will be war on many fronts, people killing off each other in a major way.
Divide and conquer, somebody thought hard about this one.
Now we also have to worry about the gay homocaust as well!

I'd like to just point something out again about these shootings
The one up north, he never fired on any civilians.
The one in Vagas, they targeted cops in a pizza joint, then went into a walmart, fired a warning shot, and yelled everyone get out, a citizen with a concealed carry only saw the one shooter, confronted him, then his wife shot the citizen.
That was not their plan.
They intended to have it out with the cops at the walmart.

So, these attacks deffinately stand out as different than unhappy teenagers and early 20 somethings that are frustrated that girls don't have sex with them whenever they think of it, or who were bullied by peers to the breaking point.

These are adults who have been bullied by TPTB to the breaking point.

X

a reply to: ScientiaFortisDefendit
Albuquerque has risen up against the police once before. For those that are curious, Google Roosevelt Park Riots of Albuquerque. The National Guard was called in, some police were disarmed and arrested by the Guard. People overturned police cars, threw things out of windows at them. It seems the situation is close to a boiling point again.

Their revolution was the result of delusions of grandeur. It was all inside their head.

a reply to: Xcouncil=wisdom

Justin Bourque is quite the odd ball case. He wasn't American and it happened in Canada. I was talking with my fiance about this earlier and, being Canadian, he'd looked into Bourque's facebook. He was really taken aback. There were issues that Bourque was raising on his facebook that applied to the US--not Canada.

www.facebook.com...

He wasn't American. He was Canadian.

Why the hell was he going on and on about American issues and amendments? He was Canadian. There is no express right to gun ownership in Canada and never has been one. In fact, in 2012, the law in regards to long gun registration was repealed in Canada. Yet there's Bourque--a Canadian--going off on Piers Morgan and the right to bear arms, which Canadians have never had.
en.wikipedia.org...

In Canada, a lot of the media that they receive comes straight from the US. They get our news and more. My fiance says that sometimes his fellow Canadians have a hard time remembering who their Prime Ministers were but can name the US presidents.

Bourque is the poster boy about the internet and media mixed with mental illness if there ever was one.

originally posted by: Xcouncil=wisdom
These are adults who have been bullied by TPTB to the breaking point.

You mean they are cowards that killed 3 innocent people before they killed themselves?

Bullied by TPTB please..what a bunch of BS justification that is.

In light of this thread, I would like to toss this one into the mix as well

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Xcouncil=wisdom

A violent revolution is a temporary solution, All it achieves is power replacement and 99% of the time it is straight back into the hands of those who held it.
Look at history's revolutions, The key holders never change.

True revolution would be achieved through mass change in perceptions and consciousness. never through violence.

''How am i a better example by pulling the very trigger that killed my brothers, If i do so i have become what i fight, the cycle continues.''

The information in my opinion should be kept in a centralized forum. and if possible used to show what we as humanity do not want the world to be like. In other words the evidence could possibly be used for change. Rather than fear mongering and hate incitement.

a reply to: Xcouncil=wisdom

...and if you dig way way back you will find many other police shot and killed. It's nothing new.

If the MO for this "revolution" is bushwacking people in restaurants they're going to get crushed like bugs with the overwhelming support of the American people.

Even Clive Bundy has denounced this latest shooting and he's on record as saying he doesn't recognize the authority of the U.S. government.

There will be no revolution started by the fringe radical element of society.

They are too busy building sandcastles at low tide, what better way to keep them busy than socialist schemes that perpetually reboot every generation. What do you think funded and guided the so called Occupy crap?

If they are busy following a well laid socialist path to nowhere, historically they accomplish nothing. The current crop of fringe radicals are disillusioned and scattered after camping out in tents defecating in between bullhorn roundups by seasoned handlers. The current nutcases who acted out were among them.

Aint blowback a bitch?

originally posted by: stirling
Aint blowback a bitch?

Especially when you didn't start the fire….and aren't the fire.

Remember the L.A. Riots? After the police beat Rodney King?

That was "just" a beating.

Police shooting, etc. are very common. Why have people become so docile?

I'm not entirely sure what I'm exactly getting at, but revolution?... who knows. This is a difficult concept to acknowledge.

a reply to: tetra50

There will not be an american revolution until 1: the military stage a coup and hang a bunch of people in washington 2: there is a huge natural disaster and american civilians are herded into extermination camps or 3: a cia psyop is sooooo outlandish -ala 911 that *1 and #3 happen.

originally posted by: Happy1
a reply to: tetra50

There will not be an american revolution until 1: the military stage a coup and hang a bunch of people in washington 2: there is a huge natural disaster and american civilians are herded into extermination camps or 3: a cia psyop is sooooo outlandish -ala 911 that *1 and #3 happen.

Absolutely ….what do you think I'm doing here, posting?
tetra

originally posted by: Xcouncil=wisdom
a reply to: schuyler

The point of this thread is not IF this is a successful revolution

Its the fact that there are individuals who are engaging the police in the name of revolution.

That cannot be denied.

There have ALWAYS been crazies who did crimes "in the name of revolution." This is nothing new. Jesse James (a cousin of mine) robbed trains because of oppressive railroad policies, he said. There are few criminals in prison who are there because they are "guilty." Just ask them. They are there because of the oppressive government.

The real question here is whether a few criminals who claim to be "revolutionaries" are a growing social trend that will result in a "real" revolution, or are they simply criminals attempting to explain their crimes as something political to divert attention from the fact that their crimes were simply crimes.

My contention is that these incidents do NOT imply any sort of real sea change as far as attitudes toward revolution in this country. If these two criminals sought to influence the public's attitude, they probably did--against them. If you believe this sort of thing is the start of people revolting because they've "had enough" I submit you are delusional.

a reply to: tetra50

Haven't heard from you in a while - glad to see you posting -

So much low-level drama in the news - and the 40 shootings in Chicago over the weekend aren't even mentioned.

a reply to: Happy1
you are rare, evidently, in "glad to see you posting"

but, here I am….
low level, or not, the players will spell that out and make it low level or not, won't they, no matter lives lost or crisis actors, involved….and we will never know.

Good to see you, too.
tetra

Anyone that denies that we aren't going towards a period of social and economic unrest has their head buried in the sand.

People are sick and tired of having to deal with an incompetent, tyrannical government. People are also sick and tired of losing half their paycheck to the government and a quarter of the remainder to inflation or in most cases, all of the rest of the check.

It's coming. it'll only take a nudge to send this country into civil war. It might be a law being passed, a veteran being killed, somebody's 1a right getting violated so hard that people react. Doesn't matter. Any society that doesn't have a revolution every other century is either extremely well off or a oppressed, slave society. Just look at ancient empires. If the citizens weren't happy, they killed their leader and put another one in. The fact that we can't even impeach the president for infringing on the Constitution after he suspended the 4th amendment in the name of national security and can now murder American citizens abroad and at home speaks volumes about where we are in the timeline of history