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What happens when you're black and you walk down the street

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 10:40 PM
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a reply to: Lipton

Would you like some cheese with that wine..


Same old racist BS propaganda.

You love to talk about how the majority of black people are under government assistance..etc. Which is total BS.


You racists love to say things like the majority of young blacks are criminals, yet praise the white man who walks into a restaurant fully armed knowing that it is white males who are most likely to walk into a busy crowded area and open fire.

Hypocrites, of course you will say they are within their legal rights and people who fear them are unjustified., then turn around and say people declaring guilt on young black men are justified in their fear. Where is their right to walk the street and be obnoxious(your guys words) without being hassled?

Like I said..racists and right wingers love to cherry pick who's rights the constitution are for.

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Onslaught2996

And where are you in the whole debate? You can't even field an argument without bringing up racism. Why not pull out some of the shining examples that your great white hope LBJ had to say about black Americans, just before he started the left's trend of writing a check you can't cash.

Admit it, youve got # for an argument.


Oh, and as far as gun violence, we both know you're making that up to. But then again I guess its ok when you cherry pick who's rights the constitution are for.

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: Lipton
a reply to: Onslaught2996

And where are you in the whole debate? You can't even field an argument without bringing up racism. Why not pull out some of the shining examples that your great white hope LBJ had to say about black Americans, just before he started the left's trend of writing a check you can't cash.

Admit it, youve got # for an argument.


Oh, and as far as gun violence, we both know you're making that up to. But then again I guess its ok when you cherry pick who's rights the constitution are for.


The debate is about racism..


You reading the same thread or watch the same video?

About the gun violence thing, White males are more likely to commit mass shootings and that is a fact.

Why Most Mass Murderers Are Privileged White Men




That "white boy mojo" can still open all sorts of doors: to boardrooms, to judge's chambers, to country club memberships. It's not that those institutions are still overtly racist (though a few come close). It's not that white men are guaranteed preferential treatment in every setting. It's that white men are raised to expect to be welcomed wherever they go. When they find that that automatic welcome isn't forthcoming, they tend to be indignant. When angry middle-class whites gather together in political groups to "take back our country," what they want to grab back are the privileges they sense they've lost.


White men have much to discuss about mass shootings




Imagine if African American men and boys were committing mass shootings month after month, year after year. Articles and interviews would flood the media, and we’d have political debates demanding that African Americans be “held accountable.” Then, if an atrocity such as the Newtown, Conn., shootings took place and African American male leaders held a news conference to offer solutions, their credibility would be questionable. The public would tell these leaders that they need to focus on problems in their own culture and communities.


So basically, a white male with a gun that walks into a crowded area = fear unjustified

Young black guys walking down the street talking amongst themselves = fear justified
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: Onslaught2996


White males are more likely to commit mass shootings and that is a fact.


Why do you "cherry pick" one particular type of crime and yet ignore the big picture?

US population - 13% black

US prison places - 40% black



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: CJCrawley

So you can't answer why one fear is justified and the other not?

Again I ask..
Black guys talking amongst themselves walking down street = fear justified
White males walking into a restaurant fully armed = not justified



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:28 PM
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So what's worse, one guy shooting 10 people, or 10 guys shooting 10 people? What do you think shows a more systemic problem?

FBI Crime Stats

I am making the assumption you know how to calculate per capita.


Here's your FBI Data for Body Counts

I'm also curious, according to White men have much to discuss about mass shootings Nidal Hassan, the Fort Hood shooter suddenly became white and not a Palestinian? No wait, you meant Ivan Lopez, from Puerto Rico. Yup, thats a white guy.


And black Americans are victims of multiple victim shootings every weekend in every urban center. But apparently because the victims aren't white people you can't be bothered to use their corpses as a soapbox.

But according to your Washington Post Mass shootings (defined as 4 victims) aren't as popular (average of one a month) as the 40 bodies every weekend in just Chicago Shootings+Multiple+Chicago


originally posted by: Onslaught2996

So basically, a white male with a gun that walks into a crowded area = fear unjustified

Young black guys walking down the street talking amongst themselves = fear justified


If were talking averages, then sadly yes that is true
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:35 PM
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So you can't answer why one fear is justified and the other not?


You never asked. You might be confusing me with Lipton.

Personally, on the whole, I would feel MUCH safer with white males, armed or not.

What about those stats...no comment?



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 12:38 AM
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Its funny how often people post videos such as this and hate on the cops. A cop can only stop a person and give lawful commands (telling him to stand in front of the hood) if the person is suspicious of either have committed, in the process, or about to commit a crime based on what the officer observes. Once the person is stopped and if there is no supporting evidence found that such crime has occurred then the person must be let free. If the person refuses to comply you are subject to arrest for obstructing an investigation.

Now if this person was unlawfully stopped then he can easily have a case where he will earn MILLIONS. I mean, you know how many hungry lawyers are out there just DROOLING at a chance for an officer to make a mistake? Clearly the officer knew he was on camera and still did what he did. Why? Because he was probably investigating a crime and likely were looking for these guys already. He will probably have a full report ready for the judge to look at and back up why he made the arrest.

The guy was resisting. He was turning his body and facing the other way multiple times. He should have stopped that and even his friends told him so.

"I do not consent to search." Well too bad. Once you are arrested you HAVE to be searched to go to jail. Why? Well when you get put in jail with guns, or even the back seat of police cruisers (which have often happened) and go around killing people then we have an issue. The only time you can refuse to search is if you are not under arrest.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE YOU SAY, "I KNOW MY RIGHTS"



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: 3n19m470

I'm in and im in cali baby!



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 03:44 AM
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a reply to: Onslaught2996

Didn't look hard enough but from that screenshot it looks like they finally fixed the B in the Bass behind this. For quite ome time it's just said ass. Anyway....

This is crap. It's been a year since I last went downtown, where this happened, for a First Friday or even any late night when all the "crazies" come out. It hasn't changed since then, so here's the scoop. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of street performers down there. From Gene Simmons or Bret Michaels to a guy/girl dancing in his/her bikini. Drummers on buckets, two guys with cellos that rock, you get the gist.

Now, this guy said he was done with a show, whatever that was, so he's a working Joe just going home. Gets harrased, for what, exactly? This is downtown Las Freaking Vegas, and people party there(here, for me). If this had been a tourist and that person made this public, TS would HTF. Right at the casino's doors, a tourist gets arrested, like this? This guys is doing NOTHING out of the ordinary, nay, I would say he's right where he should be, except for the damned pig that decided to deny him his rights, for whatever reason. Reason matters not, as the pig will come up with some junk but this could be any of thousands of people who perform/party there or even a casino worker happy he just got off from his crappy job and wanted to celebrate with his buds.

Remember, this is Vegas, people party here. Thousands of them every day. There was NOTHING they did, at least in that video, that warranted this. If everyone who acted like this were arrested here, this town would close so quick there would only be tumbleweeds left. People come here to have fun, not get arrested for having fun. For the amount of people that come here, it's pretty tame, when you think of all the propaganda about how evil we all are and must be spied upon and such. The "crime" rate would drop drastically if the pigs here stopped arresting people for non-violent thought crimes(happened to me two years ago), a little ganja or walking down the street while black and happy.

I have never lived in fear of anything in this town, except for the pigs. I don't own a gun, never have, and don't carry any weapon other than a book, occasionally. I've been here for over forty years and walk the streets at night, ride my bike and drive. Never feared ANYONE, EVER, here, even the idiot who once pulled a screwdriver on me while I was walking The Strip(I think he was WAY more wasted than I was LOL).

I went off a little there, sorry, but the point is that this was completly ridiculous, anywhere it happens, but moreso because of WHERE it happened. That pig should have kept driving and gone and arrested a real criminal comitting a real crime.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 08:16 AM
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Nevermind, I don't want to get involved.
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posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: Onslaught2996

So tell me what exactly did he do wrong in the first place?




I remember a thread here some months ago about a guy complaining he was not allowed to join the police force somewhere in US because his IQ was too high...

Now it all makes sense ... COPS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO JOIN THE FORCE IF THEY HAVE HIGH IQs
edit on 10-6-2014 by Speotyto because: (grammar check... jeez I could be a COP !)

edit on 10-6-2014 by Speotyto because: (grammar check 2 - I should get a badge immediately !)
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posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 10:28 AM
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a reply to: Onslaught2996>> On another board we've seen shill after shill posting about the Las Vegas Cop shootings and how the Tea Party is going crazy and being anti government. I don't think they'd have anything to say about this video. Nope, if you can't make a political football out of something, both left and right tend to be blind.
I can only think that maybe he was stopped on suspicion of being under the influence of a controlled substance. The guy was GOOFY and the other friend was as well. Not a thug, just a pair of goofs oblivious to how idiotic they looked to other people. Its a free country, though, no crime there. And the cop looked like a hardass jerk.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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look at the video, and the way the cop parks his squad car.

He doesn't stop and watch them before turning around. He starts turning around and immediately finds a curbside spot.

Then, he doesn't sit and observe, or get out and observe. He comes straight for them.


Even a BAD COP is going to wait and size up the situation, so see how many there are, etc.



And look at the way the arrestee responds, being told he cops are here, etc. His body language stiffens up, even though he tries to remain nonchalant. The cop comes STRAIGHT towards him, like there's already a complaint in the dispatch record regarding his description.

Any cop, good or bad, would take more time to size up a situation; unless he knew a person matching this one is to be arrested.

The arrestee is visibly agitated, even before the copcar shows up. He's twitching, high pressure of speech etc. Might not be drugs---could be because he was just in a confrontation with someone (who called the cops), could be the insight that the police are on their way.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Speotyto

originally posted by: Onslaught2996

So tell me what exactly did he do wrong in the first place?




I remember a thread here some months ago about a guy complaining he was not allowed to join the police force somewhere in US because his IQ was too high...

Now it all makes sense ... COPS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO JOIN THE FORCE IF THEY HAVE HIGH IQs


This was told to me by my dean of the criminal justice course that if the IQ was above normal they would not hire you.
This is a fact!
The question is why is there such a practice?
Also, why do we favor ex-military people to work in law enforcement?
Do we want a police state?
Where is Andy of Mayberry? extra DIV



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: waltwillis
Both of your questions have the same answer. Because intelligent people don't blindly follow orders.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: tovenar







And look at the way the arrestee responds, being told he cops are here, etc. His body language stiffens up, even though he tries to remain nonchalant. The cop comes STRAIGHT towards him, like there's already a complaint in the dispatch record regarding his description












When the cop goes by them one of the group immediately says "he's gonna turn around."
Earlier in the video he says "had to peel this (n-word) for his (b-word.)" He was obviously bragging about beating someone up over a girl. I think the truth that will come out is this guy knew exactly why the cop stopped him and was just playing innocent as criminals so often do.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 03:00 PM
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Lipton, while I see the point you are trying to make... you may as well have said "She was dressed like a slut, so she deserved to get raped."

Because in all honesty, it's pretty much the same thing.

And I have to agree 100% with g146541 regarding this incident...

originally posted by: g146541

Racism...
Racism is dead folks, the happenings in this video happen to all colors of people.
Was Kelly Thomas beaten to death for the color of his skin?
Answer is no, he was murdered because we have a police problem.

It is ok though, as of late it seems others are noticing it too.
It won't be long until we reach critical mass on this problem though, then we will all be faced with the truth and how can we fix it.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 03:21 PM
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And pigs wonder about citicens shooting pigs while calling them Nazis? Not really, do they.......?



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 03:31 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: waltwillis
Both of your questions have the same answer. Because intelligent people don't blindly follow orders.



Yeah...all the Nazis were stupid people.

Methinks you give too much credit to intelligent people. Methinks you count yourself as one of them.



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