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It's my job to create fake news/media, posts, votes and reviews about our company- What should I do

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:04 AM
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So I got a new job to create huge onlineshop portals and getting them customers.
My boss requested me to write posts in random forums, on websites, to ask websites to write reports about us and to manipulate online votes. Actually these kinds of things are part of the job for SEO (search engine optimization).
His relatives own a famous company, so he knows a lot of people in the media who lie for us regularly, claiming we would already be famous or got the best products.
The previous employee has already created over 10,000 fake reviews / posts in forums and so on and I am supposed to continue adding more.

To be honest, it is not possible to get customers without this kind of manipulation. The company will die without me doing this and I would lose my job, but I really don't want to cause harm in this world.
Which choice is the best for the sum of the wellbeing of all?
Everyone should know the media is completely manipulated, but ruining online conversations seems too much for me.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

The world is so full of lies ... what difference are yours going to make?

Caveat emptor.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:09 AM
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The difference would be to force more companies to do this to have a chance.

Creating a relative change towards heaven or hell on this planet.

So the hard task is to weight up if the companies members or the change towards heaven on earth are more important.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:10 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

S&F!


Sucks to be a slave!


Bill Hicks on Marketing




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:13 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

First off, if you don't do it and you leave or get fired, someone will walk straight in and take your place and all that stuff your afraid of will happen anyway.

It's really up to you, if you think the product being sold or the manner in which it is sold is beyond your own personal morality or standards, I'd say leave before you regret it. Don't bear the weight of the world on your shoulders, it'll keep going regardless.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:13 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

Meh. Slip in the truth half the time and bring balance to the Force my young Padawan.




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:16 AM
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If your not comfortable with doing this, don't.
On the other hand, who reads these reviews anyhow.

You could get yourself a job as a used car salesman if that makes you feel any better.

a reply to: oneoneone



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:17 AM
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Do your job or don't. Why are you on ATS for this?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:23 AM
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originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: oneoneone

The world is so full of lies ... what difference are yours going to make?

Caveat emptor.


The difference between having integrity or not having it.

To some people that means a lot. oneoneone is obviously on the verge of either keeping or losing his own.

As for whether or not you should do it, that is totally up to you. Snarl is correct that nobody will probably notice one more lie or even a hundred more at this point anyway.

Except for you that is.

I'd like to say that I'm with DietJoke and Bill Hicks on this 100%. But in reality, who knows. I'm glad it's not a choice I have to make.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:24 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

Does the product being sold, match what you're saying about it?

It will come undone very quickly if all your fake reviews 5 star a 2 star product or service.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:26 AM
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originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: oneoneone

First off, if you don't do it and you leave or get fired, someone will walk straight in and take your place and all that stuff your afraid of will happen anyway.

It's really up to you, if you think the product being sold or the manner in which it is sold is beyond your own personal morality or standards, I'd say leave before you regret it. Don't bear the weight of the world on your shoulders, it'll keep going regardless.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell


I know the company had searched for a full year without success until i came and the company already struggles.


originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: oneoneone

Meh. Slip in the truth half the time and bring balance to the Force my young Padawan.




I wouldn't divide into good or bad.
Feels more like any place like hell will get wiped out by the body police within us. Work together with all for the best possible feelings for all. Balance is not a wise thing to do it seems.



originally posted by: keenasbro
If your not comfortable with doing this, don't.
On the other hand, who reads these reviews anyhow.

You could get yourself a job as a used car salesman if that makes you feel any better.

a reply to: oneoneone


I don't have a problem, because I feel most of the change in this world as well as the nessecity of actions.

Can't really pick which job to take. It's more about which my papers qualify me for and which my damaged body can handle

Creating my own company is too risky, no matter which kind. I don't know a single company in my area which survived for longer than 20 years without investors.


originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Do your job or don't. Why are you on ATS for this?


Mainly to teach others. Perhaps to get some help weighting it, even though I could if i put a lot of effort into it




originally posted by: AlphaHawk
a reply to: oneoneone

Does the product being sold, match what you're saying about it?

It will come undone very quickly if all your fake reviews 5 star a 2 star product or service.



Yes, though the posts would be pretty annoying and prevent information trade. It would prevent a real comparison towards other products as well.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

If I had to guess I would say you have created this fake scenario to try and place a rhetorical quandary of a question, in an attempt to ensure that 'paid shills' exist, and to get us to think about if their existence is good or bad. Or I am wrong. Without giving the company name, can you say what field of business the company is in? This would just be interesting to know what kind of company does such a thing.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:30 AM
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originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: oneoneone

If I had to guess I would say you have created this fake scenario to try and place a rhetorical quandary of a question, in an attempt to ensure that 'paid shills' exist, and to get us to think about if their existence is good or bad. Or I am wrong. Without giving the company name, can you say what field of business the company is in? This would just be interesting to know what kind of company does such a thing.


I thought of people suspecting that. Well, we sell fashion clothes in online shops, on Ebay and on Amazon under different names, making it look like it would be our self produced brand. But I cannot give away the company, because it's illegal to tell about our ways. Working contract.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:39 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

There is some merit in the post from Imafungi.

"I know the company had searched for a full year without success until i came and the company already struggles."

If that is the case then you must be a rare breed indeed. I do question the validity of this statement.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:48 AM
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a reply to: myselfaswell

Well, a job about websites isn't considered to be very hard, but previous extra experience is required, because schools usually only teach the basics of up to 2 website languages. A proper online shop with animations requires at least html,css,js,ajax and php. They don't pay well and he didn't like other people who test worked for him, as they didn't talk to others and so on (at least thats what they say).
- And special - in some ways yes, I learned programming myself when I was in the 2nd grade of elementary school.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:54 AM
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Go for it....
fashion has always been about BS.....
imagine trying to sell a moo-moo dress to a big lady....

if it works...great.
if not...well at least you tried..

a moo-moo dress is like a circus tent but with a floral pattern...a reply to: oneoneone



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: tri-lobe-1

You're right, I didn't think of that.

I should mainly aim at fashion topics where I can't ruin anything anyway.
Merely the existence of those who talk about it including my fake people will be the harm caused. Creating the illusion that people would care about fashion and that more people wouldn't know or care about the state the world is in.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 04:13 AM
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originally posted by: oneoneone
So I got a new job to create huge onlineshop portals and getting them customers.
The previous employee has already created over 10,000 fake reviews / posts in forums and so on and I am supposed to continue adding more.
To be honest, it is not possible to get customers without this kind of manipulation.


I just hired a new employee to create huge onlineshop portals and get them to customers.
My last employee made over 10,000 fake reviews / posts in forums and so on and this new employee was told to continue adding more.
To be honest, It's not possible to get customers without this kind of manipulation.

Watch yo back. I got my eyes on you slick.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 04:19 AM
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a reply to: oneoneone

Fair call, oneoneone, I'll buy that


So back to the discussion, and more importantly, what do you think you should do.

Kind Regards
Myselfaswell



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 04:22 AM
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I also work in an industry that relies on reviews to maintain our
profits, the one thing i simply refuse to do is lie, if my customers
ask me about our service i tell them the honest truth. I do
often ask my customers to leave us a review, an honest one
as to how they felt about the value and quality, this has earned
us awards three times now and has kept us with a very high return
customer base, something around 85% or more in an industry
where that is not typically the case.

Sadly though our owner has flipped his wig this year and we are
heading down hill fast, the reviews and business will suffer
because of this so i am already looking for new employment.

When your owner cuts your maitnenece budget completely out
right after the most profitable year he has ever had then you
know you're in trouble.



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