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originally posted by: Boscov
a reply to: mysterioustranger
Our current human civilization is still in infancy. Possibly aliens have visited and decided to give us more time to mature. If our current civilization has been around for, let us say 10,000 years (just a guess), maybe they think we need another 10,000 years before they check up on us again. Why do we believe we are ready? It is not our choice. Another 10,000 years to us may seem like a few days to them. So, sure they check in on us from time to time. Sometimes we have been destructive, sometimes we seem very creative, sometimes we get sick, other times we prosper and grow. They, if they exist, have us and our environment under control in perspective to the universe. Here on Earth, we think life and our environment is so effing important, and so effed up, because all we see is what we see.
We are too damn needy already, what would happen if they showed up? We would want, and want, and need, and want. They may be our universal bretheren, but they do not have to care for us like a mother to an infant. This could be a protected upbringing, but maybe this is the Big Leagues of universal life, here on Earth. Either way, we have to survive on our own, not expect someone to love us or empathize with us.
IF there are any aliens hovering above us.. I would be very wary of them.
What logical reason would they have for coming here?
Of course they would be incomprehensibly more advanced than us so discussing this makes no sense seeing how we couldn't relate to them in any kind of way.
But I see only two possibilities.
They're here simply to learn and observe,
and only interfere when we are about to commit global suicide.
Helping us any sooner wouldn't make sense, they wouldn't be able to learn from our evolution anymore since they would be the cause of it.
OR, they're hostile:
Seeing how we are reluctant to learn from our mistakes, and our only successful parts of civilization thrive on greed. They would quickly take over to make use of our resources.
"But maybe they see themselves as ''Saviors of the universe'' and are actually here to help us!"
Take a look around.. wouldn't they have done so a long time ago?
Besides that too.. doesn't make sense.
When we see apes in the wild, tearing their siblings limbs off.. we don't go in there to give them anger management classes. It's always best to not interfere with other species.. evolution is doing a perfect job, you can only make it worse. To them, humankind is comparable to a fetus at best, we are not ready to encounter any of their ways.
originally posted by: hammanderr
Stop saying they don't make contact because we wage war and pollute, that is utterly simplistic.
This space-faring race(if they exist) has probably figured out how to cull resources from space, planets, asteroids etc. They've probably waged more war and polluted more rivers and lakes than we can dream.
They didn't make it to their current level of sophistication by being studious hippies. War, technological innovation and profit go hand in hand. Stop being childish simpletons.
originally posted by: SamHill
I wonder if Astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson likes his chicken regular or extra crispy.
originally posted by: simon155
As for pollution and resources, all growing societies are likely to his the resource wall at some point, and each of them may have tackled it in a different manner. Renewable resources, and a minimal footprint are certainly a logical direction to pursue, far more so than destroying and over-mining your own home, so he deserves a little more credibility than yourself on that front.
originally posted by: AlongCamePaul
This is not a question of if... it is a question of when. When will the human race look at the numbers?
Statistically speaking the number of stars our galaxy present would be enough to prove there is a 0% possibility of us being alone in our galaxy, not to mention the astronomical figures the rest of the universe presents. And thats only for goldy lock planets like earth.
Who's to say other life forms on planets even need sun and water like we do?
There could be thriving life on jupiter, right at home swimming in oceans of ammonia and hydrogen sulfide, breathing helium, and absorbing background radiation.
originally posted by: subtopia
We cant even provide a simple answer for ourselves in regards to why humans do what they do.
Simple electro-magnetic propulsion has still to be realized.
No global governance.
Cant sustain a civilization.
Still value CONTROL over reason, belief over truth, what we do rather than why we do it.