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Mass shootings new phenomenon but an old old problem.

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posted on Jun, 8 2014 @ 09:21 PM
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Time and time again I see people here blame the mentally ill for all these mass shootings well here is an interesting statistic according to the Spiritual Science Research Foundation 90 percent of the root causes of these killings are spiritual reasons and psychological root causes are only ten percent so its the spiritually ill not mentally ill people doing most of the killing and here is the problem modern psychiatry cannot diagnose,treat nor cure spiritual problems,if you have a spiritual problem you will be classified as bipolar, schizophrenic or as having some other disorder science acknowledges.

What could turn a meek retard with an iq in the 60's Martin Bryant into a killer who with 64 bullets killed 35 people including 19 in a cafe with a single head shot each firing from the right hip in 20 seconds flat,injure 22 more and cripple 2 cars.Officialdom will tell you of his psychiatric history but not mention his favorite movie Childs Play where Chucky a lifeless doll comes to life via a demon and goes on a murder spree nor his hatred of wasps-White anglo saxon protestants.

Why would a promising science student decide to dye his hair orange and kill 12 and injure 58 in a theatre well look into that case and there are bizarre phone calls with gutteral voices and moans also there is the Joker effect did that kill Heath Ledger?.Reverend Dwight Longmaker may have the answer demonic possession,he explains there are three steps to possession 1.temptation to do evil,2.obsession to do evil and 3.infestation,he believes James Holmes was possessed.

Cho Seung Hui who killed 32 both Franklin Graham and Richard Roberts prominant pastors agree was also possessed,indeed his mother had requested assistance to remove from his son what the family Pastor described as a demonic power.

Many other mass killings give clues as to this good versus evil link for example Klebold and Harris had a profound hatred of Christians.

So screening for spiritual sickness as well as mental illness is necessary if not the killings will continue.




posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 03:37 AM
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khnum.....here is the problem modern psychiatry cannot diagnose,treat nor cure spiritual problems,
thats because psychiatry does not acknowledge ''spiritual''. But yes, I do believe demons have driven those random shooters but they are written off as mentally ill. But demonic posession is being categorized as symptoms of mental illness, at least 50% of the time.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 04:34 AM
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Not every "crazy" act is done by a "crazy" person. Case in point, the Moncton shooter that was just arrested in Canada last week has had his first court appearance. Neither the prosecution or defense is requesting a psychiatric assessment because neither think it is needed. The Judge asked why and was satisfied with the answer.

Sometimes an asshole is just and asshole. Period.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 08:08 AM
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"There will never be uniform Gun Laws in Australia until we see a massacre somewhere in Tasmania", said Barry Unsworth, NSW Premier, December, 1987 at a conference in Hobart.


If you believe the Port Arthur massacre was committed by Martin Bryant and Martin Bryant only, then I feel sorry for you. What this guy said happened to the Tee roughly a decade later.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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Yes, abuse of power and rigging up events to enact fascist legislations that are unconstitutional is most definitely an old problem, probably used for thousands of years.

They're all false flags, for real.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:27 AM
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They are mentally ill.

Period.

In my opinion. Caused by society's/family's treatment of them in some cases, in others a neurobiological irregularity. Brain scans show the difference between a psychopath and a 'normal' person. They are wired differently. Whether via nature, nurture, or a combination of both.
What we need to worry about is making sure people are not swept under the rug when they show signs of needing help.

which see: www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: DarknStormy

If we are to believe the official story this would be the only logical explanation the car15 the weapon used is only used by one special force unit in the world an Israeli one,so you could believe other things.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Yes they are mentally ill there is a psychological component but there is also the fact that for all of written human history good and evil has been reported by all major religions to deny that there is spiritual affliction and possession is where modern science is at,and where its at may be completely incorrect.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:02 PM
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but there is also the fact that for all of written human history good and evil has been reported by all major religions - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just like for all of written human history it has also been reported that some are treated like garbage, enslaved, ostracized, tortured, abused, exploited, and given no dignity at all. THAT creates mental illness, and people go "postal."

Yep! It happens. It is society's fault. Civilization's fault. There's no reason to bring 'spirituality' and 'possession' into it, unless you are wanting to force religion on people in order to "make them moral."

Some people are nuts. Plain and simple. Some have no capacity for empathy - and those are the ones who enslave, exploit, ignore, abuse, torture, mistreat, and disregard others. It's something we can fix WITHOUT "exorcisms" - by treating others with dignity and respect, or alternatively, recognizing that their behavior is 'off' or anti-social or hostile -
and figure out why.

When people are drowning in a river, it's not enough to say "well, they're demon possessed", and simply haul them out and utter rituals over them. No - we have to find out WHY they are in the river to begin with. It's because OTHERS are upstream throwing them off a bridge. Fix what the OTHERS are doing. STOP disenfranchising/ignoring others, and the problem 'miraculously' goes away!

If people show early signs of future trouble (bed-wetting, fire-setting, animal-torture), they need ATTENTION. If they are injured psychologically by their peers or community, they get beyond frustration. If their parents/caregivers give them NO ATTENTION as babies, they can become Kazinskis.

Psychology DOES have answers. Psychiatry IS learning to read brain scans and treat certain disorders.
Priests have no answers except snake oil. And your source is part of the "New Apolostic Dominionism" and "Spiritual Warfare" camp, is it not?
EDIT: AH! I see. Yes, that site is an outlet for God-Shiva-channeler Ms. Shilpa Deshmukh.
Yes, it is equivalent. Anyone claiming to have "divine knowledge" bestowed upon them is Dangerous. Capital-D Dangerous.

Sorry - but.....I call bollocks.
I'm no materialist, either.
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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: khnum
according to the Spiritual Science Research Foundation 90 percent of the root causes of these killings are spiritual reasons


Information on the 'Spiritual Science Research Foundation' and ... 'his holiness' ... who founded it.
Found Here

I know there is evil in the world ...evil spirits ... and they can influence people. But the '90 percent' figure put out by this place is bogus. They have no accurate way to know that. And people do get mentally ill without the help of demons causing it.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

100 years ago if you had schizophrenia which I have you were strapped to a chair with a hole cut into it for bodily functions and left for dead,today they have drugs that will keep you relatively sane but wont stop visual and auditory hallucinations,they may give you extra protection against a psychotic break but they certainly have no cure after 16 years in my case.

I was like you but when a womens eyes blacked over and she spoke to me with a male voice I became aware such things do exist.I also believe that Preachers and Pastors have no solution to these problems never have,never will in fact in many cases they make things worse and in many cases peddle evil spirits themselves.Yes society does create monsters with movies,music and multimedia we are the first civilisation recording and promoting mental illness for posterity.



There is a war on this planet and good is losing in the western world because evil is no longer acknowledged to exist there is hope however Buddhism for instance knows more about psychology than any professor at Stanford and they still acknowledge the spiritual.The answer is not all science,neither is it all religion its in the middle somewhere.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: khnum
YIKES!! That's a story you'll have to tell in the religion forum.
A thread on personal encounters with evil .. something like that.


Evil exists. Mental health situations exist. But at this time, I think it's impossible to give a percentage of how many shooters are possessed of evil and how many are mentally ill. IMHO



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: khnum


evil is no longer acknowledged to exist there is hope however Buddhism for instance knows more about psychology -

I am familiar with Buddhism.

Yes society does create monsters with movies,music and multimedia we are the first civilisation recording and promoting mental illness for posterity.


It is not "movies, music, and multimedia" that creates monsters - it is neurobiological anomalies, brain injury, and/or childhood (or even adult) neglect/abuse. I'm coming at this from the opposite end of the spectrum - it's unfortunate that you suffer from schizophrenia, but I have to say: that fact sort of negates your 'blacked-over eyes woman' credibility, doesn't it?

However, if I ever run into a demon, I will happily redact my statements and change my stance. So far? I've seen no demons, neither as spectres or possessing humans - though I have known bad and insane people.




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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:31 PM
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we are the first civilisation recording and promoting mental illness for posterity.

Nope. Not even close.

Religion took care of that. But then again, I believe that "The God Virus" is alive and well....fighting for its life, but still kicking. Violently.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:40 PM
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What could turn a meek retard with an iq in the 60's Martin Bryant into a killer who with 64 bullets killed 35 people including 19 in a cafe with a single head shot each firing from the right hip in 20 seconds flat,injure 22 more and cripple 2 cars.Officialdom will tell you of his psychiatric history but not mention his favorite movie Childs Play where Chucky a lifeless doll comes to life via a demon and goes on a murder spree nor his hatred of wasps-White anglo saxon protestants. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...


Nothing, Bryant didn't do the killings.




So screening for spiritual sickness as well as mental illness is necessary if not the killings will continue. - See more at: www.abovetopsecret.com...


How does one propose to screen for spiritual sickness and wouldn't the demon possessing the victim be able to hide from the screening process if its able to possess a person then it would overcome human attempts to expose it wouldn't it?



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

You might like to study the archons and false realities,its all information,take Religion for example you study the inaliable texts,you follow the guidelines of mentors pretty soon you are experiencing synchronicities and other reproofs which convince the ego that it has found the 'truth',the more time effort and energy you invest the more you will reject any contrary information as the ego cannot come to grips with the fact it may of invested in a lie.

Movies,music and multimedia are also information down load to much of the wrong type and you can just like a born again christian swallow an alien spirit,go to www.napster.com their logo that little sucker with earphones is what you can end up with,apple has done more to create the legion of the damned than any evil preacher.

Anyway theres more I could say but theres no point apparently anything I say can be discounted due to my affliction,trust me I was lucid and sane when I had that experience and many other experiences that have convinced me all is not as it seems



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: khnum


Anyway theres more I could say but theres no point apparently anything I say can be discounted due to my affliction,trust me I was lucid and sane when I had that experience and many other experiences that have convinced me all is not as it seems


I'm not going to simply dismiss you out-of-hand because you claim you saw a woman turn black-eyed and speak like a man...
like I said, if I ever come across one, I will humbly retract my stance. I was only pointing out that immediately after you said you suffered from auditory and visual hallucinations, you mentioned this event.

And I'm certainly not trying to demean you (I'm honestly saddened that you are suffering, and wish there was a cure).

I'd encourage you to keep posting - tell us your story. Maybe it will be you who convinces me! Thanks also, for acknowledging that priests/pastors are questionable. Sorry if I was offensive.

(Trust me here: lots of people have dismissed what I say because of my profession. I feel ya in that regard.)

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posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:09 PM
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No your not offensive by any means you will keep an open mind thats all that matters what offends me are the rigid black and white thinkers that cannot think outside their predescribed paradigm dictated to them by science and society(and there are some prolific posters of this variety on this site)they are only just proving now in quantum physics and mechanics what the Buddha taught 2600 years ago we as a species are not quite as clever nor advanced to know all the answers yet.



posted on Jun, 9 2014 @ 01:19 PM
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they are only just proving now in quantum physics and mechanics what the Buddha taught 2600 years ago we as a species are not quite as clever nor advanced to know all the answers yet.

I totally agree with you on that point. Buddhism, a system far older than 'Christianity', makes the most sense (to me).
It's just hard for Westerners to wrap their heads around. (It took me about 2 years to grasp the concepts.) We absolutely don't have all the answers yet.
And we most likely/probably won't, until we die.



posted on Jun, 10 2014 @ 02:35 AM
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a reply to: khnum

This is not a new phenomenon, the perps are simply getting younger.

25 Deadliest Mass Shooters

Serial killers, that's a horse of a different color. More victims, more time.



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