Thanks.

I do a little gaming, but for now nothing that's really video intensive. I really want to get command and conquer Generals though, but first I'd like to get a card that doesn't have to struggle to run it.

Thanks for the link. It sounds more like a vacuum cleaner than a video card. Doesn't it also take up 2 expansion ports, one for the card and one for the fan's air intake?

my computer is getting old I just use it for mainly games.

p4 1.7ghz
512mbs ram
40 gig hd
geforce 3 64mb

Fixing to get
amd 2.8ghz
1024mbs of ram
90 gig hd
geforce 4 128mb or maybe a new ATI card

Your system isn't really that old, it's adequate for just about any game currently on the market.

Now my 386 computer with a 200mb hard drive, that's old...lol

hey lysergic if you're looking for a new video card I would recommend te Radeon 9700.... its way cheaper now since the release of the 9800. You can get one now for under $200. And its way faster than any GF4 card.

Now my 386 computer with a 200mb hard drive, that's old...lol

Damn that is old. The oldest machine in have is a Pentium 2 machine that I use as a storage server. But I used to have a 386 compaq laptop. Very old.

KT3 Ultra mainboard with 333mhz FSB
athlon xp 2100+ overclocked to around 2.03 ghz
512 megs of DDR pc266 memory
philips CDR/DVD+R combo
cheap 56x CD-ROM
ATI Radeon 7500
Sound Blaster 5.1 player with Cambridge Soundworks 5 point surround sound speakers
2 60 gig Maxtor drives both 7200 rpms
1 for all things Linux (Samba server, firewall and router).
The other drive is with WIN XP for gaming.
Power Magic ATA/133 RAID PCI card
this is my main box, with mp3's movies, etc etc
and as soon as I can find an ISP that will give me a static IP address, I'm gonna host my own site.


2nd machine (wife's machine, streaming multimedia machine)and backup PC
AMD Athlon XP 2000+
256 megs of pc266 ddr ram
ATI Rage Fury pro 128 graphics card
default motherboard sound drivers
Win XP

3rd machine being built
AMD Duron 800 MHZ
256 megs of DDR PC266 memory
20 gig Maxtor HDD
with Red Hat Linux 9.0

4th machine
another AMD Duron 800 MHZ
with still 256 megs of DDR PC266 memory
20 gig Maxtor HDD
with Red Hat Linux 9.0

Yes, but I like to have my frame rates at ludicrous speed! And every option to Highest :p

So I will need to get a new computer soonish

Thanks fer the info Ocelot!

I currently have a AMD XP 2400 (@ 2Ghz)
512 Mo DDR Mem (PC-2700 @ 333Mhz)
Epox Mobo
Geforce 4 MX-440 64 Mo

Hmm lets see... I bought a P4 2400 MHz (boxed) two weeks ago, with an ASUS motherboard (I don't know the serial number, but it's a 333mhz.
And a G-force 4 Ti-4200.

120 Gb hardisk, 512 Mb DDR memory.

oh btw, G-force Mx cards suck...

And AMD proccesors get super hot.
I saw a video clip a few weeks ago which was pretty funny.
Two guy's were playing a video game, I though it was Unreal2. Anyway, one guy was playing it with a pentium, and one with an AMD. Ok here it comes, during the game, they removed the processor cooler, to find out what happens. One the pentium machine, the screen turned green, and a few other colors showed up as well. But nothing got damaged.
When they removed the cooler on the AMD machine, the screen went black, and the processor melted through the motherboard So I'd rather have a more expensive pentium that a crappy AMD.

A few years ago, I'd build my own, etc. I'd swap out motherboards about every 3 months or so, etc. Nowadays, I game on the PS2 (though rarely) and pretty much just surf, e-mail, and work on my fiance's site on the computer (just a Dell Celeron...as it does what I need it to do). My laptop is an old Pentium II I believe, but as it only serves to do documents, e-mail, and store digital pics...it works fine for this also. My only vice is high speed connection, so for that I'm just too used to my cable connection from my gaming days....

If I were to build one though, I'd choose AMD over Pentium....(you shouldn't remove the coolers Zion...but then you knew that! ) Point well taken though, I'd actually provide extra cooling for an AMD if I were to build one... From a gaming perspective in the past, my AMD machines had always run way faster than the Pentium ones...

[Edited on 28-5-2003 by Gazrok]

Despite having three PCs all running nVidia cards, why is everyone so hell bent on saying that the GeForce cards are better.. in the past yes they were benchmarked better than what ATI could produce.

However, after some bad manufacturing they were always releasing cards later than ATI and even when they knocked one out sooner, in recent time they haven't surpassed what ATI can offer.

Yes, the new GF FX 5800 is a hell of a graphics powerhouse (and one hell of a noisy dustbuster) but it simply doesn't match the ATI Radeon 9800 let alone the Pro 256MB version.

This isn't idle speculation but proven fact on God knows how many thousands of tests, public and personal.

But to be honest... if you peeps could see the difference running both side by side it isn't even noticeable! In the end its just a few dozen numbers more that transforms to alot more money spent!

Yep I agree, nowadays the processors are so fast, it doesn't really matter that one is slightly faster than the other.

Yep I agree, nowadays the processors are so fast, it doesn't really matter that one is slightly faster than the other.

Yeah but still...... AMD RULEZ!!!!

Compaq Presario 6000
512MB RAM
AMD Athalon 1.8GHz
HDD1 80GB
HDD2 10GB
HDD3 1.7GB
NVidia Geforce2 32MB

OS's: WinXP Home, Win98, Win95, Win 3.1, Lindows, Mandrake 9.0, Mandrake 8.2, MS-DOS Emulator

Ok, check this:

Pentium 4 3Ghz (C) 800Mhz FSB
1GB (2x512) Corsair XMS PC3500 C2
Asus P4C800 Deluxe (i875)
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
Western Digital Raptor 10K RPM
SB Audigy 2
Logitech Z-560
21" Trinitron
Coolermaster ATC 201-SX case

Oh, and Ocelot is right. The 9700 Pro beats the Geforce 4 cards by a huge margin, even the 4600 and 4800. Especially when using AA and AF. As for the Geforce FX, well we all know about the 5800 Ultra (yuck). On the other hand, the 5900 Ultra is interesting, but it is not as powerful as I was expecting. Yes, it is a bit faster than the 9800 pro on some benches, but on others the 9800 pro comes out on top. So, they are pretty much neck-and-neck. Well, all that is according to hardware site reviews and previews. Check them out, they are all over the net.

Ok, check this:

Pentium 4 3Ghz (C) 800Mhz FSB
1GB (2x512) Corsair XMS PC3500 C2
Asus P4C800 Deluxe (i875)
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
Western Digital Raptor 10K RPM
SB Audigy 2
Logitech Z-560
21" Trinitron
Coolermaster ATC 201-SX case

Very Nice setup Kraken. Excellent gaming machine. I bet that Raptor of yours is super fast!!! I was thinking of getting one. I just bought and installed a second HD to my machine today.