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originally posted by: undo
p.s. try checking everything backwards from 1 AD, to about 200 BC.
originally posted by: zardust
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Tzedek doesn't mean the planet Jupiter, but the planet we have named Jupiter, was called Tzedek which is Righteousness. The word Jupiter is derived from essentially Sky Father (DyeusPater), being "king".
Also I'm not so sure Saqquth=Jupiter. Its confusing because there are different renderings of that Amos passage.
We have Moloch and Chiun, and Saqquth and Rompha. Rompha and Chiun are both names for Saturn. But Saqquth means tabernacle, and tabernacle was a female type (with Moloch being a male). Bet meaning house also woman.
It seems to me that When you look at all of them what you have is two Star gods in a tabernacle. Moloch means king, and would correspond to Jupiter along with Chiun/Saturn. These were represented as the Ark of the Covenant. Each was one of the cherubim. The ark had a special tent called Saqquth in this instance.
The Israelites were worshipping the ark of the covenant IMO.
This reference in Josephus is important because he stated that Jewish authorities in his time reckoned the seven lamps of the Menorah as representing the 7 planets 9 and that the 12 loaves on the Table of Shewbread represented the 12 months and the solar year. All these astronomical bodies and signs fall within the circle of the Zodiac. This means that a zodiacal circle must have been embedded in the floor of the Holy Place in front of the Altar of Incense, reaching eastward to the curtain at the entrance to the Holy Place, and touching the Menorah in the south and the Table of Shewbread in the north. 10