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originally posted by: violet
I'm not sure if this would work.
I'm always fasting ( not by choice) can't say it's helped me. For one it gives me a killer migraine. I get dizzy, vomit or faint. Can't concentrate.
originally posted by: mclarenmp4
a reply to: DevolutionEvolvd
We really don't need as much food as we think we do, after my water fast my whole thoughts on eating have changed dramatically. A lot of the problem is that people assume when they get what they think are hunger pangs but are actually dehydration pangs. The amount of water in the food satisfies the thirst and so they continue to believe that these hunger pangs can only be solved by eating.
True hunger is felt in the throat not the stomach.
There is also a lot of uncontrolled candida in people's gut because of overuse of antibiotics and people not repopulating their gut with pro and pre biotics. This causes the candida to take control of your stomach and it wants sugar, sugar, sugar so people feed the beast within them. I was doing this for years and after all the research it is widely believed about 60% of the populace have the fungal form of the yeast which hooks onto your stomach and eventually cause toxins to enter from your stomach into your bloodstream, called leaky gut syndrome.
This is what caused me to have anxiety, panic attacks and agoraphobia and even though I had been to my doctor for a whole host of sometimes quite serious yeast problems that were seemingly unrelated but were actually all related. My body was crawling with them and still is after a year of detox. I think the condition started almost 20 years ago and it was the water fast that brought the candida out and allowed me to identify my issue.
I suffered from Angular Chelitis/stomatis which is where the sides of your mouth crack and sores open, look similar to cold sores but not contagious. Now this condition there is no known treatment for it, there are plenty home remedy type things on the web but they never worked. It was so sore just opening my mouth to speak. But the 2 causes they believe are that it's a yeast infection or an iron deficiency and I had plenty of iron in my diet but there is no oral yeast treatment that can be prescribed. So I thought I would try Canesten Hydrocortisol the steroidal and yeast treatment. Well that worked perfectly, as soon as I feel a tingle at the side of my mouth I apply a little of the Canesten and it doesn't start to crack. I can't tell them the real reason I buy it as it's not meant to be used internally but the little that is needed and is more outside the mouth anyway.
So on day 3 when my body changed over into it's repair mode ketosis I looked in the mirror and found that where the condition was at the sides of my mouth there was this white powdery substance and my mouth felt great. So I went to pee and while peeing I start to see lots and lots of these things floating about in my urine and I was like woah what the hell is this, so I checked out a forum on water fasting I was on and several people also had the same and they informed me it was Candida die off.
By the end of the week i was a new man, I was free of all anxiety, panic, fear all of it gone after having that for 20 years. Wow it was life changing.
So after doing lots and lots of research on candida I have came over a regime that works for me and my next water fast I am hoping will be enough for the rest of the crap in my body to go.
Sorry for the TLDR post but I thought I would add my full experience of how water fasting changed my life.
originally posted by: [post=18026954]Arbitrageur
Is there research to support this claim?
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Barcs
Fasting for 2 weeks is excessive imo. More so if you are working, or go to school. Even fasting for an entire week is probably a bad idea for most people. I have tried other forms of fasting such as drinking only juices like apple juice, orange juice, etc. Of course it is best if you use the good stuff and not "SunnyD", it would even be better if you make the juice yourself from apples and oranges which is easy.
The thing is when you are fasting with any type of juice you don't release the toxins as if you were doing water fasting, so if what you are trying to do is get rid of the build up of toxins then water fasting is what you want to do.
When you are water fasting your body is not getting as many nutrients from water, and there is no calorie intake so your body is forced to use the reserves it has, you will also lose some muscle if you water fast for extended periods of time, and alongside the reserves used your body will also get rid of a higher amount of toxins accumulated over the years, or even decades.
It's safe to say if you're getting less nutrients on a water fast you'll use up your reserves so I didn't need to see any source for that, it's the part about toxins which sounds like someone made up and posted on a website, and then people believe it because it's on the internet. Since you don't have a source I'll post this one:
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
your body would not be forced to use your reserves, fat and accumulated toxins throughout your body, as much as if you were water fasting.
By the way that source agrees with the research that was cited in the OP that says fasting actually weakens the immune system, but a lot of attention-span challenged people who didn't read past the headline posting in this thread don't seem to acknowledge that fasting actually weakens the immune system. Yes the headline infers the opposite, but that's why it's misleading.
a lot can be learned from taking a moment to investigate the body's own detoxification process. The human body is quite ingenious. It was designed to have two major pathways to eliminate harmful substances. First are the immune tissues of the intestinal tract, and second are the enzymes of the liver. Did you know that the intestinal tract generates about 70 percent of our antibodies? These little heroes attach themselves to many of the bacteria, toxins, and viruses that enter our bodies, inactivate them, and prevent many from being absorbed, helping to protect us against infection and illness.
Harmful substances that slip by the intestinal detoxification system are delivered to the liver. This second pathway has two detoxification phases: (1) various transformations occur preventing the perilous substances from creating harm to our bodies; (2) another series of reactions occur, causing these substances to become less toxic. They are then excreted from the body in urine and feces.
So, how does fasting influence the body's detoxification processes? Our nutritional status affects the body's ability to manufacture antibodies and enzymes, and the liver's ability to detoxify. Fasting deprives the body of the raw materials — sufficient calories, proteins, and certain vitamins and minerals — needed to make antibodies and enzymes. Eating keeps our immune system strong.
In addition, specific phytochemicals (naturally occurring plant chemicals in vegetables and fruits) assist in the detoxification pathways, including the following examples:
Indoles, found in broccoli, cauliflower, Brussels sprouts, and other cruciferous (cabbage family) vegetables, are helpful in the liver's first phase.
The liver's second phase is enhanced by isothiocyanates and dithiolthiones, also found in cruciferous vegetables, and by limonoids, found in citrus fruits. These phytochemicals help block carcinogens from damaging our cells' DNA (thereby protecting us against cancer). Compounds in garlic, onions, shallots, leeks, and the spice cumin also enhance phase two of the liver's detoxification system.
So, fasting does not boost the body's disposal system, or cleanse your body in a healthy way.
originally posted by: Rellix
Went to see my GP today (I have a back injury) and guess what she recommended? Fasting for two days per week with an intake of no more than 600 calories per day on those days.
originally posted by: DevolutionEvolvd
a reply to: kkrattiger
And this is the point I was trying to make when asking what the process is that drives positive change when fasting. Is it simply a negative caloric balance? Or is it something else. Metabolically, ketosis and fasting are very, very similar. Thanks for the post.