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originally posted by: Barcs
10 common myths about fasting
Here's a good article that everyone should read. It clearly explains many of the misconceptions that you have brought up in this thread. Specifically check out #1, #2, #4, #8, #9, and #10.
Loren Lockman is the founder and director of the Tanglewood Wellness Center,
Unlicensed Practitioners Cited
after Death of Diabetic Patient
Stephen Barrett, M.D.
The Maryland Board of Physicians has issued cease-and-desist orders against Loren Lockman and Timothy Trader for practicing medicine without a license and representing to the public that they were authorized to practice medicine. Lochman was fined $320,000 for seven violations, each of which reflected what had happened to one client. Trader was fined $70,000 for two violations related to two of the clients.
Documents in the case indicates that Lockman founded the Tanglewood Wellness Center, which operated first in Bethesda and then in Thurmont, Maryland. In 2005, he fled to Panama and relocated his facility. Lockman employed Trader in 2003 and 2004. The pair advocated a raw food diet and administered water-only fasting for lengthy periods for people whose health conditions were worsened or could have been worsened by such fasting. They also discouraged the use of prescribed medications. Both conducted themselves in a manner that suggested that they were trained health professionals, even though they were not .
Documents in the case further indicate that Trader referred to himself as a "retired" naturopath. In the fatal case, he advised a 22-year-old woman with insulin-dependent diabetes to stop taking her insulin and undergo a water-only fast. After she became acutely ill with diabetic ketoacidosis, he administered huge amounts of insulin, but she lost consciousness and died soon afterwards. (Insulin alone is not sufficient treatment for diabetic ketoacidosis.) Three other clients appeared to have suffered impairment of their memory as a result of prolonged fasting. Another patient became emaciated and developed beriberi (a severe B-vitamin deficiency) as a result of severe fasting. Two other clients were dissatisfied with their experience and left within a week. One was a man with severe heart disease who could have been heading for disaster as a result of stopping his medications .
Lockman still operates the Tanglewood Wellness Center in Panama, which offers treatment for $900 for the first week and $500 to $700 for subsequent weeks, depending on the length of stay. His Web site claims that his methods can enable people to lose weight, never be sick again, have abundant energy and mental clarity, and look younger —"all with no side effects, safely, easily, naturally."
Trader has relocated to California. Recent autobiographical sketches states that he obtained a naturopathy degree from Clayton College and in 1991 got a "Ph.D." from the Life Science Institute. Clayton College is a nonaccredited correspondence school . The Life Science Institute was a correspondence school that was never accredited or legally authorized to grant degrees. In the mid-1980s, a Texas Court prohibited it from marketing itself as a "college" and from granting academic credits or degrees .
loren lockman tanglewood HAZARDOUS.
tanglewood loren lockman "wellness" fasting retreat
sexta-feira, 30 de Maio de 2014
RECENT UPDATE - ANOTHER DEATH
My condolences to the family of Jonathan, who recently died at tanglewood.
I do sincerely hope, that the FBI´s investigation culminates in the complete eradication of loren lockman´s defrauding activities.
Reply by Maria Paula Estela on April 10, 2012 at 7:14am
Just wanted to let you know my latest experience with loren lockman. To whom it may concern, this is one of the latest updates on this man and his center. I'm the student cited on this article....and yes I lost my money as well! It's almost 9 months now I've been trying to get a hold of this guy but it wasn't until things were made public that he came up with a bible long email explaining why he was missing with a lot of crap. I wonder why we still do a search on google on his name but none of the bad stuff comes out. We need to inform people about this guy.
If anyone else bought a package for Tanglewood in Panama, not knowing that they had moved or were going to move, please let us know as I would like to talk to you..thanks.
Cynthia Allf - www.facebook.com...
Maria Estela - www.facebook.com...
Read the article posted below.
Loren Lockman Bait & Switched Locations of the retreat and then did not honor the fasting package I had purchased and trade agreement.
originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys
This brings me back to the most important point….EVOLUTION……….as a species our body was used to three things back when we evolved or were evolving:
1) Eating RED MEAT and animal products
2) Going in and out of ketosis due to the availability of game
3) Going through periods of fasting due as well to the availability of game
So it makes perfect sense in moderation fasting could and should be healthy for the body.
You haven't posted ONE iota of evidence to back your claims. All you do is make up the meaning of definitions, such as the meaning of "starvation" and you twist what the evidence and people like me say.
BTW, to someone like you facts doesn't matter. You keep claiming "fasting for weeks at a time is the same as eating peanuts, or driving a car everyday"... That's how IRATIONAL you are... To someone like you who makes asinine and illogical arguments all the time facts don't matter...
You are suffering major hunger pangs,
you will feel pain in organs which are WARNING SIGNS and people like you think "it's just normal and part of the cleansing".
Not to mention the fact that even thou I showed evidence that way BEFORE you run out of fat reserves your body is already using muscle for proteins, including from your heart and lungs you want to claim the contrary.
Because you are not eating any proteins what the body does is reduce the size of your heart and other muscles to reserve energy and use protein, which makes your heart work twice as hard and it is part of the reason why people can die from heart arrest when doing such prolonged fasting.
You have brain damage already, go see a doctor. Either that or you are one of those people selling programs to water fast which is why you are so defensive about it, and it might be why you are making such illogical and asinine arguments...
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
You are posting a blog from a fraudster whose water fasting programs has caused organ damage, diseases like beriberi as well as others and even the death of some people as proof for your arguments...
That's how illogical and insane you are...
For those people who haven't seen my other posts that show evidence that people like Loren Lockman and associates are not only fraudsters, but because of their water fasting programs people have acquired diseases like beriberi, organ damage and even death while doing Lockman's water fasting.
When people do water fasting for a week and weeks at a time, that is not moderation. That is asking for trouble and putting your health more and more at risk of contracting a disease due to starvation, organ damage and even death.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Barcs
For crying out loud, when people post EVIDENCE that goes against your CLAIMS when you can't provide any real evidence whatsoever, it doesn't mean "that person must have some dark motive, because he doesn't want us to fast..." I guess "we must accept your word" instead of the factual the reports and evidence ...
I guess for you that's a very tough argument to comprehend...
originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
I used to fast weekly, literally not eating for two or three days at a time, I never felt healthier, rarely if ever had a cold, didn't visit a GP in years. I recommend it, as long as it is done safely.
When there is regurgitation, when there is the overloading in the system no matter whether it's just plain water - the body wouldn't starve if it fasted for forty days! It would really be good for it!